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Mogut li chernye dyry poyavit'sya na svet?

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S. B. Popov/GAISh, Moskva
Mogut li chernye dyry poyavit'sya na svet? 12.09.2006 10:10

V svezhei stat'e gruppa amerikanskih fizikov issleduet vopros o kollapse. Vyvod stat'i sostoit v tom, chto po krainei mere v rassmotrennoi modeli gorizont ne obrazuetsya. Kollapsiruyushaya obolochka uspevaet isparit'sya do ego poyavleniya.
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Naverh
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A. V. Rykov
Re: Mogut li chernye dyry poyavit'sya na svet? 5.10.2006 11:15

Prinoshu svoi izvineniya Sergeyu Borisovichu Popovu. On "na duhu" ne perenosit Anatoliya Rykova. Veroyatno za to, chto u poslednego neskol'ko drugaya tochka zreniya na ustovshiesya "fakty" fiziki i astrofiziki.

Postarayus' Sergeya Popova "ne podstavlyat'" Problema pokrasneniya fonarika po mere prodvizheniya k "gorizontu sobytii" chernoi dyry. Vse verno - krasnoe smeshenie po mere priblizheniya k chernoi dyre real'no. No ono imeet "dvulikuyu" intepretaciyu, kotoraya proistekaet iz formuly dlya dliny volny, skorosti sveta i chastoty izlucheniya v istochnike:

L=c/f.

Yasno, chto pri postulate c=const v krasnom smeshenii obyazana umen'shat'sya chastota izlucheniya (fanarika). A eto sootvetstvuet zamedleniyu vremeni. Vse v sootvetsvii s GR.

Est' drugaya al'ternativa - skorost' sveta umen'shaetsya po mere priblizheniya k chernoi dyre, k istochniku sil'noi gravitacii. A fonarik kak byl neizmennym istochnikom chastoty f, tak im i ostalsya. S kakih takih prichin dolzhna izmenit'sya "fiziologiya" batareiki i lampy nakalivaniya? Poetomu real'naya al'ternativa sostoit v zavisimosti skorosti sveta ot gravitacii. Eto sovershenno novaya intepretaciya v astrofiziki, vlekushaya za soboi peresmotr mnogih yavlenii kosmosa. I vozvrat k principu Gyuigensa otnositel'no prelomleniya sveta:

n=c/c(i) .

Sergei Borisovich! Proshu u Vas izveneniya za vtorzhenie v Vashu sferu interesov.

Anatolii Rykov

Naverh
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A. V. Rykov
Re[2]: Mogut li chernye dyry poyavit'sya na svet? 5.10.2006 11:22

Ispravlenie grammatiki:

 

Prinoshu svoi izvineniya Sergeyu Borisovichu Popovu. On "na duhu" ne perenosit Anatoliya Rykova. Veroyatno za to, chto u poslednego neskol'ko drugaya tochka zreniya na ustoyavshiesya "fakty" fiziki i astrofiziki.

Postarayus' Sergeya Popova "ne podstavlyat'". Problema pokrasneniya izlucheniya fonarika po mere prodvizheniya k "gorizontu sobytii" chernoi dyry. Vse verno - "krasnoe smeshenie" po mere priblizheniya k "chernoi dyre" real'no. No ono imeet "dvulikuyu" interpretaciyu, kotoraya proistekaet iz formuly dlya dliny volny, skorosti sveta i chastoty izlucheniya v istochnike:

L=c/f.

Yasno, chto pri postulate c=const v "krasnom smeshenii" obyazana umen'shat'sya chastota izlucheniya f (fanarika). A eto sootvetstvuet zamedleniyu vremeni. Vse v sootvetsvii s GR.

Est' drugaya al'ternativa - skorost' sveta umen'shaetsya po mere priblizheniya k chernoi dyre, k istochniku sil'noi gravitacii. A fonarik kak byl neizmennym istochnikom chastoty f, tak im i ostalsya. S kakih takih prichin dolzhna izmenit'sya "fiziologiya" batareiki i lampy nakalivaniya? Poetomu real'naya al'ternativa sostoit v zavisimosti skorosti sveta ot gravitacii. Eto sovershenno novaya intepretaciya v astrofiziki, vlekushaya za soboi peresmotr mnogih yavlenii kosmosa. I vozvrat k principu Gyuigensa otnositel'no prelomleniya sveta:

n=c/c(i) .

Sergei Borisovich! Proshu u Vas izveneniya za vtorzhenie v Vashu sferu interesov.

Anatolii Rykov

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