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Re[15]: Otricatel'naya massa: bred ili net?
31.05.2007 13:22 | Dmitrii Docenko

S kontrargumentom ne soglasen. Nezavisimo ot melkomasshtabnoi struktury odnorodnost' sushestvuet na bol'shih masshtabah (bolee 100 Mpk).

Kstati, nazvat' gravitacionnoe pole Zemli sil'nym nel'zya.

S reliktovym izlucheniem argument zheleznyi. No ob'yasnyat' fiziku RI v detalyah, izvinite, dlya menya zaimet slishkom mnogo vremeni. Model' Bol'shogo Vzryva, konechno, nepolna, no RI ob'yasnyaet na 100%. Ves' ego uglovoi spektr + kucha drugih dannyh (vmeste bolee milliona eksperimental'nyh tochek) opisyvaetsya v ramkah teorii Bol'shogo Vzryva shest'yu (!) parametrami.

Vkratce povtoryus'. Neodnorodnosti RI v rezul'tate neodnorodnostei rannei Vselennoi voznikayut po dvum prichinam. Vo-pervyh, bolee plotnye oblasti takzhe i bolee goryachie (adiabaticheskoe szhatie - teploperedacha na bol'shih masshtabah slaba), poetomu temperatura reliktovogo izlucheniya iz bolee plotnyh oblastei vyshe.

No est' i drugoi, obratnyi, effekt, sravnimyi po velichine, kotoryi otsustvuet v vashei modeli. On svyazan s tem, chto bolee plotnye oblasti obladayut b`ol'shim gravitacionnym potencialom, poetomu energiya (a, sledovatel'no, i temperatura) fotonov, kotorye ottuda izluchayutsya, budet umen'shena zaschet gravitacionnogo krasnogo smesheniya.

Nu a to, chto gravitacionnye zaryady ne uspeyut razdelitsya k momentu izlucheniya RI, legko pokazat', uchityvaya, chto harakternyi razmer gravitacionnyh yamok lish' nemnogim men'she razmera kosmologicheskogo gorizonta na moment izlucheniya.

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Re: Otricatel'naya massa: bred ili net? (M. Yu. Yakimov, 19.05.2007 21:21, 1.0 KBait, otvetov: 25)

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Re[9]: Otricatel'naya massa: bred ili net? (Dmitrii Docenko, 27.05.2007 21:28, 1.1 KBait, otvetov: 9)

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