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"Volshebnye" principy astronomii
7.08.2007 11:40 | A. N. Churaev
Astronomiya eto ves'ma interesnaya nauka. No eshe interesnee ee delayut nekotorye "volshebnye" i pri etom tainye principy, kotorye ispol'zuyutsya v nekotoryh teoriyah. Naprimer, "princip odnorodnosti sostava ob'ektov". Chto eto eshe za princip takoi? Nu eto takoi princip soglasno kotoromu sostav poverhnosti zvezdy takoi zhe kak i sostav ee glubin, sostav verhniv sloevatmosfery planet-gigantov takoi zhe kak i sostav nizhnih sloev atmosfery. Pochemu etot princip tainyi i "volshebnyi"? Tainyi on potomu chto o nemnikto ne govorit, a "volshebnyi" on potomu chto voobshe-to protivorechit zakonam fiziki. Izvestno, chto davlenie gazaeksponencial'no umen'shaetsya s vysotoi, prichem massa molekul gaza ona v eksponente stoit. Drugimi slovamichem bol'she massa molekul gaza tem bystree padaetplotnost' etogo gaza s vysotoi.I sootvetstvenno vyshe vseh zaberetsya samyi legkii gaz (gaz s samoi malen'koi massy molekuly). Pravda gaz mozhet zabrat'sya slishkom daleko i prosto naprosto uletet' s planety - vse zavisit ot moshnosti gravitacionnogo polya (a takzhe ot temperatury, nalichiya ili otsutstviya moshnogo solnechnogo vetra).
Itak chto my imeem? Verhnie sloi atmosfery Yupitera sostoyat iz vodoroda. Esli vospol'zovat'sya "principom odnorodnosti sostava ob'ektov", to togda my poluchim, chto ves' Yupiter sostoit iz vodoroda i imeet kristallicheskoe yadro, i voobshe yavlyaetsya ne planetoi a gazovym gigantom ("volshebnyi princip" poprozhdaet ne menee "volshebnye" ob'ekty). A esli ne ispol'zovat' etot princip, to chto nam tot fakt, chto verhnie sloi atmosfery Yupitera sostoyat iz vodoroda? Nu sobstvenno tol'ko to, chto moshnosti gravitacionnogo polya Yupitera dostatochno chtoby uderzhat' vodorod, a v bolee glubokih sloyah Yupiter "soderzhit" bolee tyazhelye gazy... nu itverdaya poverhnost' u nego tozhe sudya po vsemu est'. Pochemu est'?Nu chto proishodit s meteoritami,asteroidami, kometami,kotorye regulyarno padayut na Yupiter? Oni sgorayut (tochnee isparyayutsya). Nu a dal'she? A dal'she isparivshee veshestvo ostyvaet, kondensiruetsya, kristallizuetsya i padaet vniz. Kuda padaet? Na poverhnost'! Dazhe esli ee kogda-to ne bylo, to poverhnost' sozdali ostanki meteoritov i asteroidov.
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(A. N. Churaev,
7.08.2007 11:40, 2.2 KBait, otvetov: 36)
Astronomiya eto ves'ma interesnaya nauka.... - Re: "Volshebnye" principy astronomii
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Esli ne slozhno, utochnite... - Re[2]: "Volshebnye" principy astronomii
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