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Re[2]: yaLEYEMHE OEPHCEKH' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER
28.09.2007 21:43 | S. Yu. Yudin

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Voobshe staraya literatura chast'yu otskanirovana i lezhit v se ti zdes': http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html Etot servis nahodit b olee sotni statei i zametok o M erkurii do 1900 goda.

Vopros o skachkah perigeliya Merkuriya uzhe nemnogo obsuzhdalsya zdes': http://www.astronet.ru/db/f orums/1222800

Chto ka saetsya vtoroi ssylki, to eto deistvitel'no interesno, t.k. oni tam kak raz moyu model' i obsuzhdayut.

A po vtoroi ssylke s moim znaniem angliiskogo yazyka navernoe hodit' ne zhelatel'no . Da i potom menya ved' interesuyut ne tol'ko starye dannye, no i sovremennye i ya special'no p rivel v raspechatke dannyh poluchennyh na programme Solsys4 i dannye poluchennye m noyu dlya 2007_2008 godov, kotorye mozhno proverit' uzhe seichas (blago Merkurii prohodit pe rigelii 4-e raza za god).

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yaLEYEMHE OEPHCEKH' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER (S. Yu. Yudin, 27.09.2007 19:13, 17.0 KBait, otvetov: 7)
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Re: yaLEYEMHE OEPHCEKH' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER (Dmitrii Docenko, 27.09.2007 22:45, 1.1 KBait, otvetov: 6) Dumayu, nuzhno smotret' staruyu literaturu - v novoi takih dannyh ne privodyat. Original'nye nablyudeniya i rassuzhdeniya Lever'e nahodyatsya v Annales de l'Observatoire Impérial de Paris, 1859 goda. V seti ego, uvy, net, no, mozhet, vy naidete ego v astronomicheskoi biblioteke.

Voobshe staraya literatura chast'yu otskanirovana i lezhit v seti zdes': http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html Etot servis nahodit bolee sotni statei i zametok o Merkurii do 1900 goda. Ya prosmotrel chast' - mestami interesno, no konkretnye nablyudeniya est' malo gde. Vse ssylayutsya na Nautical Almanach i trudy raznyh observatorii. Vo vsyakom sluchae tam vy naidete konkretnye ssylki i po nim smozhete vyiti na bumazhnye original'nye raboty.

Vopros o skachkah perigeliya Merkuriya uzhe nemnogo obsuzhdalsya zdes': http://www.astronet.ru/db/forums/1222800

Uvy, ya ne nablyudatel' i u menya net staroi biblioteki pod rukoi (poetomu ne mogu otskanirovat' i vylozhit' konkretnye nablyudeniya iz arhivov). Nadeyus', vam smozhet pomoch' Vadim Chazov - on v nebesnoi mehanike razbiraetsya kuda luchshe menya i zdes' chasto byvaet.

Pishite,
Dima

>> Re[2]: yaLEYEMHE OEPHCEKH' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER (S. Yu. Yudin, 28.09.2007 21:43, 1.3 KBait, otvetov: 5) < tbody>

Citata:

Voobshe staraya literatura chast'yu otskanirovana i lezhit v se ti zdes': http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html Etot servis nahodit b olee sotni statei i zametok o M erkurii do 1900 goda.

Vopros o skachkah perigeliya Merkuriya uzhe nemnogo obsuzhdalsya zdes': http://www.astronet.ru/db/f orums/1222800

Chto ka saetsya vtoroi ssylki, to eto deistvitel'no interesno, t.k. oni tam kak raz moyu model' i obsuzhdayut.

yaLEYEMHE OEPHCEKH' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER (S. Yu. Yudin, 28.09.2007 21:48, 623 Bait, otvetov: 4)
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yaLEYEMHE OE' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER (S. Yu. Yudin, 28.09.2007 21:53, 770 Bait, otvetov: 3)
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Re: yaLEYEMHE OE' lEP'SPH' H DPSCHU OKYuMER (S. Yu. Yudin, 28.09.2007 21:55, 770 Bait, otvetov: 2)
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Re[2]: 'keshelue nez Keoiyaouz u doyazhus nichlep (S. Yu. Yudin, 28.09.2007 21:56, 770 Bait, otvetov: 1)
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Re[3]: 'keshelue nez Keoiyaouz u doyazhus nichlep (Dmitrii Docenko, 8.10.2007 16:00, 531 Bait) Sergei, Vashe soobshenie ya prochital posle ruchnogo pereklyucheniya kodirovki na "Win-1251" v nastroikah brouzera. Tak kak ya nahozhus' po otnosheniyu k Vam za rubezhom i u menya net kirillicy na klaviature, to ya pol'zuyus' saitom translit.ru i ottuda kopiruyu tekst v okoshko astroneta. Eto rabotaet. Vozmozhno, v vashem sluchae srabotaet kopirovanie teksta v okoshko translit.ru, a ottuda v astronet. Eto ne reshenie problemy (nadeyus', administrator saita Vam otvetit), no ya nichego drugogo ne mogu pridumat'.

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