FOTO NASA JPL Curiosity

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[quote author=Bulgakov link=topic=52854.msg2147815#msg2147815 date=1351052179] Curiosity nashel ne obychnye "kamni" i NASA imi ochen' zainteresovalas'. Hronologiya takova: na 71 sol oni ego rasstrelyali 3 vystrelami, vmeste s neskol'kimi drugimi celyami. Na 72 sol oni ego sfotografirovali vo vseh cvetovyh fil'trah, vmeste s neskol'kimi drugimi ob'ektami. Na 76-i sol oni ego (i tol'ko ego) snyali celoi seriei kadrov ChemCam s raznoi glubinoi rezkosti, chto pozvolyaet rassmotret' vse detali kamnya vo vseh podrobnostyah. Za chetyre dnya oni vpolne mogli poluchit' rezul'taty obstrela, i eto zastavilo ih snova vernut'sya k nemu. Oficial'nyh soobshenii poka ne delali. [/quote]

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Video.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/videos/

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/videoarchive/

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Pohozhe na oblomok tehnologicheskogo izdeliya. Vozmozhno kleima i otverstiya dlya trehfaznogo toka. Spektral'nyi analiz podtverzhdaet nalichie dvuh materialov.

NASA's  Mars rover Curiosity on Sol 79 (2012-10-26

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Pogoda. Veter 2m/c

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/instruments/environsensors/rems/

Proby peska ulozhennye na lotok sduvaet, (sduvaet vzyato v kavychki, peremeshenie ili peretaskivanie peska ne svyazano s vetrom!) poskol'ku: vo-pervyh, rech' idet ne tol'ko o peschinkah no i melkih kameshkah, vo-vtoryh, vysokaya dinamika izmeneniya probnoi kuchi peschinok i otsutstvie vetra vyshe 2m/s zamerennyh anemometrom. Napomnim Curiosity imeet dve gruppy anemometrov, k tomu zhe real'no fizicheskii veter sposobnyi peretaskivat' melkie kameshki nepremenno podnyal pyl', a etogo net. Sledovatel'no, rech' idet o napravlennyh silah sposobnyh peremeshat' ne elektricheskie predmety. Vo mnogih soobsheniyah, naprimer chast' 6, 7 i 8 uzhe pisalos' ob analogichnom po fizike yavlenii, proyavlyavshemsya vo mnozhestve sluchaev.

http://tonos.ru/articles/marslife6

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Naprimer, sluchai imevshii mesto pri kasanii poverhnosti posadochnogo modulya Opport'yuniti kogda napravlenie dvizheniya modulya bylo izmeneno bolee chem na 120 gradusov, k tomu zhe posle kratkovremennyh ostanovok modul' vnov' prodolzhal dvizhenie poka ne okazalsya v nebol'shom kratere Igl.

K anomal'nomu mozhno otnesti i mnogochislennye zaderzhki i propuski fotografii pryam ne znayu chto i dumat' pro vse eto.

Press-konferenciya 30 oktyabrya.

http://www.exploremars.org/jpl-briefing-30-october-2012-230-pm-edt-methane-on-mars

FOTO NASA JPL Curiosity

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rover Curiosity on Sol 82 (2012-10-29 08:43:35 UTC) .

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rover Curiosity on Sol 82 (2012-10-29 08:57:30 UTC)

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rover Curiosity on Sol 82 (2012-10-29 11:14:48 UTC) .

FOTO s bol'shim uvelicheniem.

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 Sled, ostavlennyi na dyune, zarastaet na meste, po analogii zarastaniya shrama (obrazovanie orogovevshei korochki) a ne vyravnivanie s vynosom peska, v etom sluchae obyazatel'nogo sleda iz zanesenyh pyl'yu sharikov v kakuyu-libo storonu. To est' na peske net pylevogo ili peschanogo sleda v kakom libo napravlenii, k tomu zhe vmyatina-rana ubyvaet po glubine (vyravnivaetsya-zarastaet), dlya chego neobhodim pritok k dannomu mestu dopolnitel'nogo veshestva (pyli i peska) po telu dyuny. Sledovatel'no rech' idet o mestnom zarastanii rany, a ne vyduvanii ili zanesenie vmyatiny peskom prinesennym vetrom so storony.

Arhiv NASA

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/

FOTO NASA JPL

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http://vk.com/curiosity_live

Sait issledovatelei Astrogeologii, u nih mozhno uvidet' lyubopytnye foto NASA (cvetnye snimki delayut na Zemle i NASA publikuet foto po raznym adresam).

Arhiv NASA

http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/images/index.html

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/

Zainteresovavshii NASA oblomok tehnologicheski anomal'nogo kamnya, issleduetsya dostatochno ubeditel'no. Kak esli by udarami lazera ogolyayutsya tokoprovodyashie shiny (postoyannaya tolshina stenok i po dline: nalichie pravil'noi formy tehnologicheski sootvetstvuyushego naznacheniya), sami kleima mogli byt' poteryany ranee, sohranilos' tol'ko levaya s shestigrannoi golovkoi (pokazannaya ranee). Vazhnost' nahodki podcherkivaet dva obstoyatel'stva: zatrachennoe vremya i energiya i privlechennoe oborudovanie. Vse govorit o neobychnosti issleduemogo predmeta.

Vysokokachestvennoe foto 0082 kamen', lezhashii poverh sharikov, poyavlenie etogo kamnya ne ponyatno.

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V vide versii: ne isklyucheno i vmeshatel'stvo NASA.

FOTO NASA JPL Curiosity

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Opport'yuniti

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Stat'ya 9 chast' http://www.yugzone.ru/articles/mars/

Arhiv NASA

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p2024.html

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p2031.html

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity.html

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/index.html

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Ranee Opport'yuniti uzhe vstrechal kamni ili po nashei versii marsianskie zhivotnye s vyrezannymi v ih korpuse otverstiyami, otverstie primerno odinakovogo razmera i formy v udobnom dlya ispol'zovaniya polozhenii. Kak esli by otverstie bylo sdelano s cel'yu, naprimer issledovaniya vnutrennostei ili ih izvlecheniya.

FOTO NASA JPL Curiosity 

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http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2012/10/28/paparazzi-curiosity-snaps-photos-of-martian-rock-stars/

Eto ne skul'pturnye gruppy a real'nye marsianskie zhivotnye, po-vidimomu, podobie nashego afrikanskogo praida l'vov.

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http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=28691

http://www.astronomy.ru/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52854.0;attach=451001;image

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Forum

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7495&st=285

A eto vovse ne kuski lavy, a te zhe marsianskie lyudi, soglasimsya skul'pturnaya gruppa ochen' pohozha na babushku s vnukom. Po-vidimomu, skorost' metabolizma tam ili u nih v 100 ili 100000 raz medlennee. My vidim zamedlennoe kino, no eto real'naya forma zhizni.

Skoree vsego za valom raboty svyazannoe s issledovaniem mineral'nogo i dr. sostavlyayushih rutinnuyu chast' raboty gruppa issledovatelei NASA ne vidit ochevidnoi versii.

Zaidite na forum

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7495&st=285

i posmotrite sami ne predubezhdennym vzglyadom, na kuski lavy vse oni pohozhi na dikovinnyh zhivotnyh, skoree vsego ili dazhe bolee chem - oni imi i yavlyayutsya. Tol'ko s chrezvychaino medlennym metabolizmom. Imenno poetomu do sih por ne bylo otmecheno dvizhenii v yavnoi forme, hotya sledov, otpechatkov - ochen' mnogo. Skoree vsego poslednie foto s orogovevshimi sledami eto i est' sledy, ostavlennye primerno pol goda ili god nazad.

Vozmozhno pravil'no v dannoi situacii, prokopat' transheyu. Delaya foto i strelyaya lazerom kazhdoe mesto vzyatoi kovshom do vzyatiya proby i mesto vysypaniya peska.

Vo-pervyh, skai-kran nanes usherb ne soizmerimo bol'shii (unichtozhiv sotni kamnei i eto tol'ko nachalo), poskol'ku i dalee v slozhivsheisya situacii -  nikto ne sobiraetsya prekrashat': davit', strelyat', vzryvat'. Sledovatel'no, predusmotritel'no i posledovatel'no sdelat' vse to zhe samoe, no nauchno - srezaya sloi po etapam, provedya polnoe issledovanie sostoyaniya peska na vsyu glubinu dyuny. Razrezav transheei dyunu popolam. Ozhidaetsya, chto vnutri dyuny est' central'noe telo s otlichnymi svoistvami peska: po cvetu, him. sostavu i strukture. Primerno 100-200 kovshei v techenii 2-3 sutok, eto luchshe chem prosto zhdat' ili peremeshat'sya, ryadom tot zhe pesok i te zhe kamni. Vozmozhna avariinaya situaciya ili nechto analogichnoe upavshemu kembriku, no opyt est' opyt. Lyuboi osoznano poluchennyi rezul'tat polozhitel'nyi.

- Chto drugoe v dannoi situacii?

FOTO NASA JPL Opport'yuniti

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Forum NASA, obsuzhdenie belogo pryamougol'nika.

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7081&st=75&p=179193&#entry179193

Na forume NASA obsuzhdali etu fotografiyu 11 oktyabrya 2011

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=25681

Togda zhe oni opredelyali blizhaishuyu poziciyu Opport'yuniti k pryamougol'niku den' 2742, v etot den' kak vidno po trase dvizheniya Opport'yuniti maksimal'no priblizilsya k krayu grebnya, sdelav kryuk vpravo. Vse eto imi obsuzhdalos' god nazad.

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Fragment poverhnosti s analogichnymi osvetlennymi uchastkami poverhnosti (2012 10 16) privedennyi pri obsuzhdenii etogo voprosa segodnya.

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=88ba9b2d6604cb1aed54760ece79ea0d&showtopic=7411&st=570

Primenyaemye oboznacheniya: udivitel'nye pryamougol'nye struktury, chto konechno sootvetstvuet izobrazhennomu na foto.

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izobrazhennomu na foto.

Foto belogo pryamougol'nika

Oct 12 2011, 12:19 AM

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=25682

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Uchastok poverhnosti sootvetstvuyushii polozheniyu belomu pryamougol'niku.

Nikto ne vidit, chego-libo neobychnogo v etom meste kak-libo sootvetstvuyushii vydelennomu polozheniyu belyh linii, ili oni ne vidyat ob'ektov ili predmetov sostavlyayushih belye linii - predpolozhu imenno poetomu NASA ne stalo preryvat' dvizhenie v zaplanirovannom vide, spusk pologii i esli ne boyat'sya provalit'sya i zastryat' to nichego slozhnogo, no zachem? Rentgena net, lopaty net, geofizicheskie pribory v vide geofizicheskoi kosy otsutstvuyut. Togda dlya chego? Rezonno, vozrazit' osobenno nechego.

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=7081&st=75&p=179193&#entry179193

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?s=88ba9b2d6604cb1aed54760ece79ea0d&showtopic=7411&st=570

Eshe raz privozhu adres na dve stranichki obsuzhdeniya belogo pryamougol'nika god nazad i segodnya.

Esli foto ne otkrl. prosmotrite vruchnuyu ne otkryvsheesya ssylki, eto foto mesta polozheniya "pryamougol'nika".

FOTO NASA JPL Curiosity 0066

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Vse foto sol 0066

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Sprava po centru obrezannaya trubka.

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Oblomok odin iz etoi zhe gruppy oblomkov.

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Obshaya panorama so vsemi kamnyami

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Arhiv Flaiker

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Gruppa ploskih kamnei v konce dyuny, tak vot vopros: razve pravee serediny v teni - ne dva sterzhnya ili dve trubki? prichem odinakovoi dliny i diametra? Mnogo drugih voprosov po povodu elektricheskih shin i yavnyh priznakov razbitogo korpusa tehnologicheskogo izdeliya.

Luchshe esli otkryt' foto 200 kb verhnyaya ssylka pod fotografii oblomka, da i voobshe vnimatel'nee rassmotret' vse foto vysokoi chetkosti.