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Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
27.03.2008 13:38 | O. A. Bykovskii
Novye fotografii Encelada, uchastok raspolozheniya ledyanyh geizerov raion Yuzhnogo polyusa. Obnaruzheny anomal'nye zony povyshennoi temperatury po krainei mere na 110S vyshe srednego dlya Encelada! I eto v raione polyusa. Remarkably high temperatures, at least 180 Kelvin (minus 135 degrees ...) were registered along the brightest fracture, named Damascus Sulcus, in the lower left portion of the image. For comparison, surface temperatures elsewhere in the south polar region of Enceladus are below 72 Kelvin (minus 330 degrees ...). http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/image-details.cfm?imageID=3013 Ranee v 7 chasti my pisali. http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/8567.html Skoree vsego, kak na Evrope, Encelade tak i na kometah, my vidim proyavlenie vnutrennei organizacii s nekimi preobrazovaniyami energii harakternymi dlya zhivogo organizma. Poskol'ku, esli uchityvat' vse teplo v proekcii komety ili Encelada, to ego kolichestva vpolne dostatochno dlya obrazovaniya nablyudaemogo ispareniya, no s uchetom togo, chto pogloshenie proishodit po vsei ploshadi, a rashoduetsya na isparenie lokal'nym obrazom, gde-to vnutri komet. S posleduyushim udaleniem para cherez otnositel'no uzkie otverstiya. Poetomu naibolee pravdopodobnaya versiya dlya Evropy, proyasnyayushaya nablyudaemuyu kartinu - eto cirkulyaciya teplonositelya po sisteme chastichno vyhodyashei na poverhnost', skoree vsego s cel'yu sbrosa tepla. Svoeobraznyi radiator ohlazhdeniya, no, skoree vsego process deistvuet kombinirovanno so mnogimi celyami (vyravnivanie temperatury, obluchenie veshestva i t. d.). Foto sprava Encelad. http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Enceladus?start=10 http:// photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Enceladus?start=0 Ego ledyanoi geizer tak zhe mozhet byt' sledstviem prohudivsheisya sistemy, pri vozdeistvii nebol'shogo meteorita ili drugoi neshtatnoi situacii vnutrennego haraktera. No, opyat' zhe vozmozhna i shtatnaya situaciya vybrosa ledyanogo para kak napravlennogo tehnologicheskogo processa. Processa napravlennogo na preobrazovanie okruzhayushego prostranstva. Napomnim al'bedo Encelada bol'she 90%, eto oznachaet, chto ostaetsya tol'ko menee desyati procentov solnechnoi energii, intensivnost', kotoroi na orbite Saturna i tak nevelika. Poetomu gipoticheskii vodyanoi karman sushestvuyushii vo l'du Encelada i rozhdayushii ledyanoi geizer, eto vtoroi tom nashego skazochnika, bezuderzhnaya fantaziya kotorogo vydumaet vodu na Plutone i dal'she (a my uzhe soobshali v 5 chasti o nalichii kristallicheskogo l'da na poverhnosti malyh tel iz poyasa Koiperona). Po povodu vsego izlozhennogo u nas est' vopros. - I chto, menee odnogo procenta tepla, otnositel'no tepla padayushego na Zemlyu v raione polyusa, dostatochno, chto by Encelad byl vnutri iz zhidkoi teploi vody? Eto bez plotnoi atmosfery, prosto v otkrytom kosmose?! Na etoi ssylke http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Enceladus?start=30 est' fotografiya, na kotoroi pokazany krome krupnyh izlomov na poverhnosti Encelada, est' eshe i melkie nerovnosti, imeyushie bukval'no schitannye metry shiriny. Eto chto, govorit o tom, chto led, na Encelade podvizhen i imeet neskol'ko metrov tolshiny? A podo l'dom moshnye buruny ot raznonapravlennyh techenii? Techenii, po-vidimomu, proishodyashie ot raznosti temperatur i privodyashie k podvizhke l'din i dal'she k obrazovaniyu otkrytoi vodyanoi poverhnosti? I vse eto pri temperature 190 S. A dlya ispareniya vodnaya poverhnost' eshe i otkryta i dazhe bez tonkogo sloya l'da? I eto nauchnoe ob'yasnenie fenomena?? Issledovanie nablyudaemyh yavlenii, edinstvenno pravil'no vesti s uchetom vseh vozmozhnostei, i nalichiya zhizni tozhe (raz eto menee nepravdopodobno). Chto v real'nosti tol'ko neznachitel'no izmenyaet i dopolnyaet programmu issledovanii. Esli dazhe pochemu-libo i neobhodima versiya, idushaya cherez fantasticheskie gipotezy, naprimer nalichiya otkrytoi zhidkoi vody na takom ogromnom udalenii ot Solnca, to prosto tak, dlya raznoobraziya, davaite predpolozhim i chto-to fizicheski vozmozhnoe. A budet li eto zhizn' ili neizvestnye fizicheskie zakony, eto proyasnitsya v hode issledovanii (novye eshe ne otkrytye zakony prirody, ya vsegda za takoi podhod). My k tomu, chto poluchennaya informaciya, vo mnogom sledstvie primenyaemyh metodov issledovanii. I my znaem, chto Psihoemocional'naya sostavlyayushaya pri analize novoi informacii, vsegda preobladaet pered logikoi, etomu uchit vsya predydushaya istoriya razvitiya nauki. Togda kak pri sostavlenii programmy issledovanii nichego ne stoit zaranee uchityvat' i vyskazannye nami vozmozhnosti. Soglasimsya, est' smysl, budushie programmy slegka skorrektirovat', naprimer, kakie na poverhnosti gradienty i konfiguraciya raspredeleniya pyaten temperatur, polyarizaciya otrazhennogo sveta, raspredelenie himicheskih veshestv, neelektromagnitnoe ili subelektromagnitnoe izluchenie i t. d. Ne prosto zafiksirovat', a poiskat' vtorichnye i tretichnye priznaki po obnaruzhivshemsya artefaktam. T. e. razobrat'sya v situacii na meste po hodu programmy. Vyrazim nadezhdu chto dal'neishie issledovaniya dadut bolee detal'nuyu kartinu gradienta temperatur i drugih detalei. Ne pravda li lyubopytnoe prorochestvo? V duhe staryh dobryh tradicii ot Nostradamusa. Po krainei mere soglasimsya chto nablyudaemoe poka skoree podtverzhdaet chem protivorechit vyshe predpolozhennomu.
- Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Bolee chem strannye kamni (Spirit, Opportunity).... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Na etih snimkah mikroskop Spirita... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Eti strannye shariki... Zhal' chto ssylki neaktivny.... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Rassmotrim 10 samyh krupnyh kamnei... - Re[2]: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Naibolee lyubopytnoe iz stat'i (fotografii ochen' legkie). Marsianskii Begemot.... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Novye fotografii Encelada, uchastok raspolozheniya ledyanyh geizerov raion Yuzhnogo polyusa.... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Spirit... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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