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Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
1.05.2008 10:23 | O. A. Bykovskii
Izmeneniya poverhnosti Marsa vo vremya pylevoi buri. http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=11328 Sravnim pozicii marsianskih kamnei do i posle buri. Spirit Jun 23, Aug 24, 2007 ( marsianskie dni 1234 i 1294) http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1268026083&size=o Marsianskie pylevye buri yavno vliyayut na rost kamnei. Sravnivaya snimki do i posle buri horosho vidno chto kamni kak by podnyalis' nad poverhnost'yu. Zazor mezhdu kamnyami i gruntom stal na santimetr poltora bol'she. Otsyuda vyvod libo my vidim ne kamni a korally i my nablyudaem rost korallov proizoshedshii za schet obil'nogo vpityvaniya pylevoi massy vo vremya pylevoi buri. Libo pesok i pyl' vymelo ogoliv kamni na poltora santimetra. No esli eto eroziya, to eroziya sil'naya i togda udivitel'no i ne ob'yasnimo drugoe. Animaciya izmenenii. http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1268381317&size=o Vnimanie. Poziciya pri fotografirovanii raznaya. Fotografii s raznyh napravlenii i raznogo rasstoyaniya i po vysote. No, vse zhe esli prosmotret' 15 - 20 smen kadra to glaza privyknut i adaptiruyutsya k forme proizoshedshih izmenenii. Kamen' v kadre kak by nemnogo podnimaetsya ili pesok vyduvaetsya. Sledovatel'no est' kolossal'nye izmeneniya vsego za neskol'ko mesyacev (dva zemnyh mesyaca). Otsyuda nalichie bol'shoi erozii poverhnosti Marsa prosto vidno glazami. Togda vstaet vopros proishozhdeniya milliardov melkih voronok kraterov (ili pohozhih na kratery) pokryvayushih vsyu poverhnost' Marsa. Ih ne dolzhno byt'! Ved' voznikayut kratery redko, a pylevaya burya deistvuet odnovremenno na vsyu poverhnost'. Napomnyu chto bol'shie kratery Endurans i Viktoriya po okruzhnosti okruzhayut mnozhestvo melkih kraterov, primerno shtuk dvesti odin ili dva metra v diametre. Soglasno obychnoi logike, obrazovaniya kraterov ot padeniya meteoritov, bol'shie kratery voznikayut redko, no sohranyayutsya dolgo. Melkie obrazovalis' ot oskolkov krupnogo meteorita i obrazovalis' odnovremenno. Togda melkih kraterov pri takoi sil'noi erozii ne dolzhno byt' voobshe!! A nablyudaemaya statistika ih bol'shogo nalichiya i raspolozheniya melkih imenno vokrug krupnyh, govorit o ih vzaimnoi tesnoi svyazi melkih voronok s bol'shimi. Kak pautiny okruzhayushei gribnicu. Eshe raz podcherknu chto nablyudaemye melkie kratery ne mogli obrazovat'sya pri padenii oskolkov ot krupnogo meteorita. Tak kak eroziya poverhnosti Marsa ochen' sil'naya i za milliony let vse melkie kratery obyazatel'no ischezli by. Da i po fotografiyam vidno chto mnogie melkie kratery obrazovalis' sovsem nedavno. Kak by poverhnost' vzlamyvaetsya iznutri vshodami pobegami ot central'nogo tela. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20080102a.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20080102a/Sol1162B_P2299_L257F_br2.jpg Tak vot imenno ishodya iz bol'shoi erozii kotoraya kak fakt est' i vidna v tom chisle i po stiraniyu sledov roverov. To odnovremennoe nalichie bol'shogo chisla melkih kraterov nesovmestimo. I imenno poetomu my sdelali vyvod o ih ne meteoritnom proishozhdenii. Melkie voronki i bol'shie eto takaya forma zhizni vrode gribnicy. Neprivychnaya dlya nashego glaza, no ponyatnaya chisto logicheski. Poskol'ku eshe raz povtoryu za god na poverhnost' vsego Marsa padaet okolo dvadcati meteoritov! A stirat'sya oni dolzhny let za sto trista, sledovatel'no svezhii krater na Marse dolzhen byt' takoi zhe redkost'yu kak i na Zemle. Melkih kraterov prosto ne dolzhno byt'! A oni est'. Sledovatel'no eto ne ot meteoritov. Uzhe odno eto dolzhno bylo nastorozhit' vseh i v tom chisle NASA, no etogo ne proishodit chto i udivitel'no. A kamni pohozhie na zemnyh zveryushek, eto dlya nashego analiza ne obyazatel'ny, prosto razvlekalochka. Takih strannyh kamnei moglo i ne byt', prosto ishodya iz mesta i sluchainosti. No raz oni est' to kazalos' by nado issledovat' hotya by iz prostogo lyubopytstva.
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Rassmotrim 10 samyh krupnyh kamnei... - Re[2]: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Naibolee lyubopytnoe iz stat'i (fotografii ochen' legkie). Marsianskii Begemot.... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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