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Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie

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Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 25.10.2002 18:26

Osnovy nashego ponimaniya prostranstva-vremeni proveryayutsya chernymi dyrami. Eti ob'ekty, poyavlyayushiesya kak estestvennoe sledstvie uravnenii obshei teorii otnositel'nosti, - moshnoe analiticheskoe sredstvo issledovaniya mikroskopicheskih i krupnomasshtabnyh svoistv vselennoi. Dannaya vvodnaya stat'ya naglyadno izlagaet osnovnye idei teorii chernyh dyr, a takzhe opisyvaet astronomicheskie ob'ekty, v kotoryh, kak predpolagaetsya, oni igrayut vazhnuyu
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M. F. Dmitriev
Re: vEPMShE DShPSh: oNOSK'PMNE BBEDEMHE 24.12.2002 13:36

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M. F. Dmitriev
Re: Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 26.12.2002 14:11

Otvet na Vashu stat'yu s kommentariyami chitaite v "In', Yan i chernaya dyra" po adresu: http://www.izvestia.ru/forum/forums.cgi?forum=12
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M. F. Dmitriev
Re: vEPMShE DShPSh: oNOSK'PMNE BBEDEMHE 26.12.2002 15:23

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Re: Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 11.08.2005 18:15

Zhzhesh scuko!!!

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Re[2]: Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 27.01.2006 10:09

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Re: Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 21.01.2008 15:32

Srochno nuzhno mnogo informacii pro Chernye Dyry za poslednii 5 LET!!! I esli est' roliki pro pogloshenie ChD zvezd ili inyh ob'ektov!esli u kogo-to chto-to podobnoe est', vysylaite na mylo koncepciya@gmail.com Budu och priznatel'na!

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i. e. Abevegedeev
Re[2]: vEPMShE DShPSh: oNOSK'PMNE BBEDEMHE 26.04.2009 17:08

"ves' izluchennyi takim telom svet dolzhen byl by k nemu vernut'sya" .hME, 'M H VEPMYu' DShPYu. oHYaELN mP.11. oNYaB'YYuERYa' oERPS iYuOHZhYu. vEPMYu' DShPYu H YaBEPUMNBYu' GBEGDYu ShRN DBYu NAZE'RYu YaB'GYuMMShU LEFDS YaNANI YaRYuAHKEMShL OKYuGLEMMShL 'MSPNL. Nu vot.Pervoe soobshenie iz chernoi dyry prorvalos' naruzhu.
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i. e. Abevegedeev
Re: Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 26.04.2009 20:34

Re[2]: vEPMShE DShPSh: oNOSK'PMNE BBEDEMHE 26.04.2009 17:08 "ves' izluchennyi takim telom svet dolzhen byl by k nemu vernut'sya" .hME, 'M H VEPMYu' DShPYu. oHYaELN mP.11. oNYaB'YYuERYa' oERPS iYuOHZhYu. vEPMYu' DShPYu H YaBEPUMNBYu' GBEGDYu ShRN DBYu NAZE'RYu YaB'GYuMMShU LEFDS YaNANI YaRYuAHKEMShL OKYuGLEMMShL 'MSPNL. Nu vot.Pervoe soobshenie iz chernoi dyry prorvalos' naruzhu.
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Karim Haidarov
Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie - eto znachit dlya durakov, veryashih v yabloki na bereze 27.04.2009 8:46

Nu i proidoha, etot Zhan-P'er Lyumine iz Observatorii Parizh-Myudon, Otdeleniya Relyativistskoi Astrofiziki i Kosmologii!!! ... zhalko trud pekrevodchika etoi brehni (zhizn' to, daetsya nam odin raz i ne na dolgo).

Nachav, yakoby, s persidskoi skazki, on kak drevnii haldeiskii mag, vnushaet chitatelyu, chto i na bereze rastut yabloki.

Na samom dele chernyh dyr net v prirode po prostoi prichine: elemtromagnitnye volny ne obladayut gravitacionnoi massoi, a poetomu ne uchastvuyut v gravitacionnom vzaimodeistvii i ne mogut letat' po obbitam konicheskih sechenii. Poetomu vse dal'neishie rassuzhdeniya "skol'ko yablok na vetkah berezy" - prosto bessmyslenny, esli ne skazat' - zhul'nicheskii relyativsistskii cirk.

Kto hochet deistvitel'no razobrat'sya s problemoi kvazarov i rentgenovskih zvezd, chitaite ne etu mut', a stat'i vedushih uchenyh planety - astrofizikov i fizikov na saite Bourabai Research

Dlya nachala tam est' FAQ dlya "chainikov"

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A. V. Rykov
Re: Chernye dyry: Populyarnoe vvedenie 13.05.2009 10:33

Zhalkoe zrelishe proizvodyat KM, KED, OTO!

Prichina obshaya dlya vseh fundamental'nyh fizicheskih teorii HH veka: bez znaniya prirody yavlenii vsemi vozmozhnymi sposobami matematicheski opisyvayut nablyudaemye yavleniya i dannye eksperimentov. Deistvuya v tochnosti po receptam Ptolemeya-Dekarta. Na samom dele parametry chernyh dyr opredelyayutsya po N'yutonu, a ne po Shvarcshil'du. Radius chernoi dyry nahoditsya po formule N'yutona R=sqrt[GM/g(max)], gde g(max)=6,341445e+10 mc^2.

Sravnenie Shvarcshil'da i resheniya po N'yutonu dayut dlya massy Solnca 3 km-46 km, dlya massy Zemli 0,01 m 79, dlya chernyh dyr v centrah galaktik plotnost' men'she plotnosti vody na 5-7 poryadkov bol'she plotnosti vody.

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