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Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
10.03.2010 10:19 | O. A. Bykovskii
Est' novaya informaciya. Peremeshenie grebnei marsianskih dyun. Oni dvigayutsya i bystro! http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA12860.jpg http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/targetFamily/Mars?start=0 Fotografii snyaty 30 iyunya i 14 oktyabrya 2009g. Uchityvaya otsutstvie sil'nogo vetra skorost' peremesheniya, chrezvychaino vysoka, poryadka dva metra za 70dnei! Eto oficial'no, no zritel'no po fotografiyam otdel'nye chasti dyun smestilis' na 3-5 metrov. Navernyaka eto ne rekord - raznovidnostei dyun na Marse mnozhestvo, da i krome dyun na Marse mnogo drugih neobychnyh form organizacii veshestva. Chto kasaetsya peremesheniya grebnei, vo-pervyh, dyuny pokryty zhestkoi korochkoi iz melkih sharikov i komochkov svyazannogo peska i takoe sostoyanie predmeta ne pozvolyaet svobodno peremeshat'sya posredstvom perenosa vetrom. Togda kak vse izuchennye dyuny imeyut imenno takuyu poverhnost', poetomu nablyudaemoe peremeshenie grebnei ne mozhet byt' perenosom peska nahodyashegosya v svobodnom sostoyanii i nanesennogo na poverhnost' zastyvshih dyun. http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image020.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image021.jpg Arhiv NASA http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040318a.html Grebni predstavlyayut soboi nechto organichnoe soedinennoe so vsei massoi dyun: v kotorom grebni - odno celoe i nahodyatsya v tom zhe sostoyanii chto i ostal'naya dyuna. Otsyuda peremeshenie grebnei eto dinamika samoi dyuny kak organizovannogo (zhivogo!) veshestva Tak zhe obratim vnimanie, nesmotrya na to chto dyuny spolzayut v krater (pesok obrushivaetsya?) na poverhnosti dyun net treshin, net razryvov otdelivshihsya plastov kak eto bylo by v dannom sluchae na Zemle. Vse eto vidno ne tol'ko s orbity, no sfotografirovano vblizi Opport'yuniti na sklonah kratera Viktoriya. I eto vse pri skorosti vetra 2-4 m/s, poskol'ku v techenii iyulya oktyabrya 2009 goda pylevyh bur' ne bylo, a v drugoe vremya veter na Marse kraine slabyi i eto pri 0.6% plotnosti zemnoi atmosfery. Neestestvenno bol'shaya dlya uslovii Marsa dinamika dyun, ih ogromnoe raznoobrazie i mnogie drugie osobennosti vpolne svidetel'stvuyut o nalichie processov svyazannyh so slozhnoi vnutrennei organizaciei. Fotografii vysyhayushih dyun ili chto v dannom sluchae bolee pravil'no process razlozheniya. http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/images/2008/details/PSP_005397_1270.jpg http://hirise-pds.lpl.arizona.edu/PDS/EXTRAS/RDR/PSP/ORB_005300_005399/PSP_005397_1270/ PSP_005397_1270_RED.thumb.jpg Neobhodimo sravnit' i eti fotografii do i posle. Esli temnye polosy za eto vremya smestilis', to eto volokna, niti karkasa. Hotya raspolzanie volokon brosaetsya v glaza i po etoi fotografii. Tak zhe kak otsutstvie prisypannyh kamnei vblizi samogo kraya dyuny i voobshe otsutstvie dazhe priznakov teh samyh bystro dvizhushihsya grebnei dyun, ved' obychnyi pesok pri razduvanii dolzhen sozdat' mikrodyuny i otdel'nye grebni, on ne mozhet uletuchit'sya bessledno vse eto govorit o neprichastnosti obychnogo peska, a banal'nom dlya uslovii Marsa processe razlozheniya uglekislotnogo napolnitelya. Starye ssylki: Mars i Luna http://tonos.ru/articles/marslife http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/9717.html http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/10005.html Kremnievaya forma zhizni na Zemle http://www.bolesmir.ru/index.php?content=text&name=o72
- Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Bolee chem strannye kamni (Spirit, Opportunity).... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Na etih snimkah mikroskop Spirita... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Eti strannye shariki... Zhal' chto ssylki neaktivny.... - Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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Rassmotrim 10 samyh krupnyh kamnei... - Re[2]: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).
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