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Re[2]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka
7.04.2010 12:37 | Dmitrii Docenko

Otvechu na Vashi voprosy.

1. Iz nalichiya reliktovogo izlucheniya sleduet, chto Bol'shoi Vzryv proizoshel pri sverhvysokih temperaturah. Vodorod poyavilsya iz elementarnyh chastic "proton" i "elektron", gelii - v osnovnom v rezul'tate nachal'nogo (goryachego) yadernogo sinteza, ostal'nye elementy - preimushestvenno v zvezdah.

2. Eti izotopy mogut, naprimer, obrazovyvat'sya v rezul'tate raspada drugih bolee dolgozhivushih izotopov (kak radon s periodom poluraspada v neskol'ko dnei obrazuetsya v rezul'tate raspada izotopa urana s periodom poluraspada 4.5 mlrd let)

3. Naprimer, tak kak radioaktivnye bolee tyazhelye elementy opustilis' v yadro, a bolee legkaya lava po zakonu Arhimeda podnyalas' k kore.

4. Naschet forsterita - ran'she ne slyshal. V vikipedii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/81P/Wild) etot vopros podnyat i tam napisano: "Both in the Solar System and in circumstellar disks crystalline silicates are found at large distances from the star. The origin of these silicates is a matter of debate. Although in the hot inner-disk regions crystalline silicates can be produced by means of gas-phase condensation or thermal annealing, the typical grain temperatures in the outer-disk (2−20 au) regions are far below the glass temperature of silicates of approx 1,000 K. The crystals in these regions may have been transported outward through the disk or in an outward-flowing wind. An alternative source of crystalline silicates in the outer disk regions is in situ annealing, for example by shocks or lightning. A third way to produce crystalline silicates is the collisional destruction of large parent bodies in which secondary processing has taken place. We can use the mineralogy of the dust to derive information about the nature of the primary and/or secondary processes the small-grain population has undergone."

To est' poka neyasno, no est' bolee-menee dostovernye idei.

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Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Aleksandr Kozlovskii, 26.02.2010 17:14, 2.4 KBait, otvetov: 17)
Net nichego bolee volnuyushego, chem poiski zhizni i razuma vo Vselennoi. Unikal'nost' zemnoi biosfery i chelovecheskogo intellekta brosaet vyzov nashei very v edinstvo prirody. Chelovek ne uspokoitsya, poka ne razgadaet zagadku svoego proishozhdeniya. Na etom puti neobhodimo proiti tri vazhnye stupeni: uznat' tainu rozhdeniya Vselennoi, reshit' problemu proishozhdeniya zhizni i ponyat' prirodu razuma.

Izucheniem Vselennoi, ee proishozhdeniya i evolyucii zanimayutsya astronomy i fiziki. Issledovaniem zhivyh sushestv i razuma zanyaty biologi i psihologi. A proishozhdenie zhizni volnuet vseh: astronomov, fizikov, biologov, himikov. K sozhaleniyu, nam znakoma tol'ko odna forma zhizni belkovaya i tol'ko odno mesto vo Vselennoi, gde eta zhizn' sushestvuet, planeta Zemlya. A unikal'nye yavleniya, kak izvestno, s trudom poddayutsya nauchnomu issledovaniyu. Vot esli by udalos' obnaruzhit' drugie naselennye planety, togda zagadka zhizni byla by reshena gorazdo bystree. A esli by na etih planetah nashlis' by razumnye sushestva Duh zahvatyvaet, stoit tol'ko predstavit' sebe pervyi dialog s brat'yami po razumu.

No kakovy real'nye perspektivy takoi vstrechi? Gde v kosmose mozhno naiti podhodyashie dlya zhizni mesta? Mozhet li zhizn' zarodit'sya v mezhzvezdnom prostranstve, ili dlya etogo neobhodima poverhnost' planet? Kak svyazat'sya s drugimi razumnymi sushestvami? Voprosov mnogo

Neskol'ko millionov let nazad na tret'ei planete, vrashayusheisya vokrug zvezdy, v odnom iz vneshnih zvezdnyh rukavov spiral'noi galaktiki, poyavilas' rasa mlekopitayushih teplokrovnyh gominid. V processe evolyucii, pri vozniknovenii i ischeznovenii podvidov, v zhestkih usloviyah okruzhayushei sredy, gominidy razvilis' v vid razumnyh gumanoidov, sposobnyh osoznavat' okruzhayushii ih mir. Soznanie rodilos' v beskonechnom processe geneticheskogo preobrazovaniya zhivoi materii, otbora naibolee sovershennyh priznakov. Razvitie gumanoidov privelo v itoge k poyavleniyu Homo Sapiens sovremennogo cheloveka, nadelennogo lyubopytstvom, sposobnost'yu zadavat' voprosy i iskat' otvety na nih. Na protyazhenii tysyacheletii chelovek neizmenno obrashal svoi vzor k nebu s neistrebimoi zhazhdoi poznaniya okruzhayushego ego bezgranichnogo i prekrasnogo mira. I segodnya razum ishet ob'yasneniya processov, proishodyashih v mirozdanii, tochku opory dlya ponimaniya zakonov prirody.

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Re: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. I. Kul'matickii, 23.03.2010 22:12, 1.8 KBait, otvetov: 16) Ob'yasnit' proishozhdenie Vselennoi mozhno tol'ko otkazavshis' ot dogm ves'ma uvazhaemyh uchenyh. Poslednie soobsheniya, amerikancev, yaponcev, akademika Nigmatulina o vozmozhnosti sushestvovaniya holodnogo yadernogo sinteza postepenno probivayut bresh' v betonnoi stene konservatizma. Teoreticheskie osnovy holodnogo yadernogo sinteza zalozheny v rabotah uchenyh iz Vinnickogo tehnicheskogo universiteta i opublikovany v techenie poslednih desyati let. Itak, priznanie sobstvennoi chelovecheskoi impotencii sozdat' upravlyaemyi termoyadernyi sintez i smirennoe dopushenie, chto Priroda vse zhe umnee nas i, vozmozhno, mozhet sotvorit' holodnoe yadernoe chudo, srazu snimaet ryad ochen' vazhnyh voprosov:
1. Pochemu posle bol'shogo vzryva pri otsutstvii zvezd i sverhvysokih temperatur, v holodnom kosmose, pri absolyutnom nule poyavilsya vodorod i vse ostal'nye himicheskie elementy?
2. Pochemu v meteoritah, padayushih na Zemlyu, imeyutsya nedolgo zhivushie radioaktivnye izotopy? (Ved' proshlo uzhe 4,5 milliarda let posle vozniknoveniya Solnechnoi sistemy i oni dolzhny byli davno raspast'sya)
3. Pochemu Zemnoe yadro raskaleno do vysokih temperatur na protyazhenii milliardov let, a vulkanicheskaya lava ne radioaktivna?
4. Pochemu iz komety Vil'da 2 - vyletayut chastichki forsterita, obrazuyushiesya pri temperature bolee 1000 gradusov? Otkuda energiya, davlenie i vysokaya temperatura v komete diametrom 2,5km?
Otvet lish' odin: eto genial'nost' Prirody, sozdavshei holodnyi yadernyi sintez, kotoryi pozzhe perehodit v himicheskii biosintez, sozdavaya uglevodorodnye soedineniya. I poslednim genial'nym tvoreniem Prirody yavlyaetsya voda, sozdavshaya vse zhivoe na nashei planete. Imenno voda yavlyaetsya osnovnym materialom dlya sozdaniya chelovecheskogo tela i elektrogeneratorom dlya deyatel'nosti nervov i mozga. My - deti Prirody i davaite budem ee uvazhat'.

Re[2]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. V. Dvorcevoi, 3.04.2010 17:49, 6 Bait)
Re[2]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. V. Dvorcevoi, 3.04.2010 17:58, 319 Bait) Umnye lyudi sozdali ne odnu teoriyu i napisali nemalo knig o vozniknovenii Vselennoi i ee stroenii.
Zdes' Vashemu vnimaniyu predlagaetsya:
"Gipoteza duraka ob obshei strukture Vselennoi i o deistvuyushih v nei silah"
skachat': http://files.mail.ru/GL409X tekstovyi fail v formate WORD 2007. virusov net.
Re[2]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Mihail Petrov, 6.04.2010 23:23, 573 Bait) Net prichin verit' ili ne verit' v vozmozhnost' (chego-libo). Poetomu verit' ili ne verit' - eto delo vybora. Drugoe delo - prorabatyvaite detali teorii, nahodite argumenty, proveryaite protivorechiya, razreshaite paradoksy, predskazyvaite rezul'taty nablyudenii, stav'te eksperiment, ubezhdaites', chto rezul'tat vyzvan deistvitel'no tol'ko holodnym yadernym sintezom i ni chem drugim, opisyvaite i publikuite vse eto v stat'yah v nauchnom soobshestve, togda ot Vashei raboty budet pol'za. A delat' predpolozheniya o sushestvovanii chego-to kazhdyi mozhet v svobodnoe ot raboty vremya.
Re[2]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Mihail Petrov, 6.04.2010 23:41, 332 Bait) V. I. Kul'matickii, - iz sushestvovaniya holodnogo yadernogo sinteza skoree sleduet, chto Priroda glupa: zachem v zvezdah ispol'zovat' prostoi yadernyi sintez, esli vmesto etogo mozhno pryamo zdes' ispol'zovat' "holodnyi", i ne tratit' stol'ko energii na osveshenie okrestnostei Solnechnoi sistemy, - komu ono nuzhno, krome planety Zemlya?
>> Re[2]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Dmitrii Docenko, 7.04.2010 12:37, 1.9 KBait, otvetov: 11) Otvechu na Vashi voprosy.

1. Iz nalichiya reliktovogo izlucheniya sleduet, chto Bol'shoi Vzryv proizoshel pri sverhvysokih temperaturah. Vodorod poyavilsya iz elementarnyh chastic "proton" i "elektron", gelii - v osnovnom v rezul'tate nachal'nogo (goryachego) yadernogo sinteza, ostal'nye elementy - preimushestvenno v zvezdah.

2. Eti izotopy mogut, naprimer, obrazovyvat'sya v rezul'tate raspada drugih bolee dolgozhivushih izotopov (kak radon s periodom poluraspada v neskol'ko dnei obrazuetsya v rezul'tate raspada izotopa urana s periodom poluraspada 4.5 mlrd let)

3. Naprimer, tak kak radioaktivnye bolee tyazhelye elementy opustilis' v yadro, a bolee legkaya lava po zakonu Arhimeda podnyalas' k kore.

4. Naschet forsterita - ran'she ne slyshal. V vikipedii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/81P/Wild) etot vopros podnyat i tam napisano: "Both in the Solar System and in circumstellar disks crystalline silicates are found at large distances from the star. The origin of these silicates is a matter of debate. Although in the hot inner-disk regions crystalline silicates can be produced by means of gas-phase condensation or thermal annealing, the typical grain temperatures in the outer-disk (2−20 au) regions are far below the glass temperature of silicates of approx 1,000 K. The crystals in these regions may have been transported outward through the disk or in an outward-flowing wind. An alternative source of crystalline silicates in the outer disk regions is in situ annealing, for example by shocks or lightning. A third way to produce crystalline silicates is the collisional destruction of large parent bodies in which secondary processing has taken place. We can use the mineralogy of the dust to derive information about the nature of the primary and/or secondary processes the small-grain population has undergone."

To est' poka neyasno, no est' bolee-menee dostovernye idei.

Re[3]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (A. V. Rykov, 15.04.2010 16:05, 820 Bait, otvetov: 10) Tak nazyvaemoe "reliktovoe" izluchenie v nastoyasheesh vremya est' real'nost' segodnyashnego dnya. Ono porozhdeno kolebaniyami elektricheskih zaryadov struktury vakuuma, amplituda kotoryh ravna 0,78 mm na chastote
3.8998e+11 Gc
Podrobnee mozhno posmotret' stat'i , nazhav na moem FIO.

Re[4]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Mihail Petrov, 16.04.2010 10:22, 797 Bait, otvetov: 1) Uvazhaemyi A. V. Rykov! Spasibo za ssylki na stat'i! S udovol'stviem prochel vot etu: http:// www.worldspace.nm.ru/ru/articles/repres_r/repres_r.html "Matematicheskoe predstavlenie prirody gravitacii". Poluchil nemaluyu dozu udovol'stviya i vesel'ya. Vy vyveli formulu dlya gravitacionnoi konstanty G = h * c / (2 * PI * (m_pl ^ 2) ), gde massa Planka m_pl - eto velichina, kotoraya vyvoditsya iz izvestnoi G po formule m_pl = ( ( (h / 2 / PI) * c / G) ^ 0.5 ) (sm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units). To est', Vy vyveli prostuyu formulu G = G, ispol'zuya izoshrennuyu matematiku! Takih prikolov, konechno, mnogo v Internete, no chtoby na etom osnovanii delali vyvody o prirode gravitacii, - takogo ya poka ne vstrechal! A eto Vashe "Eto otkrytie oshelomilo avtora", voobshe ugar! Spasibo za yumor!

Re[5]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (A. V. Rykov, 16.04.2010 12:02, 2.9 KBait)
Spasibo, uvazhaemyi Mihail Petrov!
Vy na saite opustilis' nizhe vsyakoi istorii, kotoraya radi ee sohraneniya. Nado chitat' sovremennye stat'i, vklyuchaya "Struktura vakuuma reshaet problemy Astrofiziki i Fiziki", "Gravitaciya i inerciya". V nih daetsya istochnik gravitacii i inercii. Ya vedu peregovory naschet otkrytiya struktury vakuuma s inostrannym zhurnalom :
1. I have many articles in my PC. The main topic is The structure of vacuum solves problems of Astrophysics and Physics. Among the problems are: gravity, inertia, dark Energy and Matter in the Universe. Our universe cannot exist and is normal function without this structure. The topic is of general interest. The article The structure of vacuum solves problems of Astrophysics and Physics is more preferable.
1. The structure of vacuum is open at research of the fact of formation of masses of electron and a positron by energy 1,022 MeV. A birth of electron and a positron for the first time observed in 1933 in Wilson's camera placed in a magnetic field for division of tracks electron and a positron, and also by Patrick Blekett who has received in 1948 for it and other opening the Nobel Prize on physics. The structure of vacuum is a source of gravitation, inertia, a source of a birth of all masses of micro particles, and a source of the electromagnetism known in a science and in practice.

Re[4]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Mihail Petrov, 16.04.2010 12:06, 737 Bait, otvetov: 7) A. V. Rykov, ostal'nye Vashi dovody stroyatsya na togo zhe roda predpolozheniyah. Naprimer, v "N'yuton-Kulon v HH veke" podstavlyaem vmesto m_pl i m_x vyrazheniya, soderzhashie fundamental'nye konstanty (G i e) chtoby naiti pryamoe vzaimootnoshenie mezhdu nimi i poluchaem G = G i e = e (t.e. nichego novogo). Sperva ya podumal, chto Vy prosto poshutili odin raz, i eto bylo prikol'no, no tak kak eta shtuka povtoryaetsya v kazhdoi Vashoi stat'e, eto nadoedaet i uzhe ne pohozhe na shutku. Inymi slovami, esli Vy shutite, to uzhe ne smeshno, a esli ne shutite, - sdelaite uroki po matematike: reshiv ravenstvo x = ( (y^2) / 4) ^ 0.5, gde y = 2x, Vy ne naidete nikakih novyh dannyh (t.e. chemu ravny x i y), i nichem ne pomozhete sovremennoi nauke. S uvazheniem.

Re[5]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (A. V. Rykov, 16.04.2010 12:59, 597 Bait, otvetov: 5) Uvazhaemyi Mihail Petrov! Vse, vklyuchaya avtora obsuzhdaemoi stat'i, zabyvayut glavnuyu istinu: Priroda Edina i razdelyat' ee na chetyre silovyh vzaimodeistviya nerazumno. Vse, absolyutno vse, glavnye konstanty, izvestnye nauke, vzaimosvyazany i razdelit' ih nikomu ne udast'sya! Kostanty G, alfa, h, e, m(Pl), c, 2pi, pronicaemosti vakuuma i drugie. Ih nevozmozhno razdelit', odna sledut iz drugih. Primer h=2pi.e.alfa^(-1).F =6,6260687652e-34 dzh.s. Vse silovye vzaimodeistviya imeyut obshuyu elektromagnitnuyu prirodu. Bez etogo poniamaniya Vamostaetsya vse vosprinimat' kak yumor. Bud'te schastlivy!

Re[6]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Mihail Petrov, 19.04.2010 17:22, 460 Bait, otvetov: 4) V. V. Komogorov, esli vazhny harakteristiki napryazheniya, poprobuite opisat' ego, naprimer, tak: U(t) = 220V * sin((t + 0.1s) * 50Gc/2/PI). Processy, opisannye uravneniyami, ochen' nravyatsya fiziku ili opytnomu radiotehniku. Pri rabote zhe s mnogomernymi sistemami luchshe ispol'zovat' libo vektory, libo kompleksnye chisla, - kak v kvantovoi mehanieke ili v obrabotke signalov, - v pervom sluchae eto neobhodimo, vo vtorom privodit k udobstvam v hode vychislenii.

Re[7]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. V. Komogorov, 20.04.2010 1:43, 1.6 KBait, otvetov: 3)
Esli, vyhodnye napryazheniya transformatorov schitat' ishodnymi, to vse izvestnye formuly i preobrazovaniya mozhno primenyat', kak k odnomu, tak i k drugomu napryazheniyu, eto ih ne ob'edinit bez (KZ) - sveta. (Radiolyubitel'stvo s 67g., poslednii vakuumnyi vyklyuchatel' 91g. V linii po tri kamery (VKDU) 10kV. 1,5kA). No delo v tom, chto my iznachal'no ne uchityvaem induktivnost' sredy, v kotoroi nahodimsya. Sozdavat' moshnye vyklyuchateli mudrost' chelovecheskaya. V prirode net ponyatiya vrednaya energiya. Da i delo ne v otsutstvii znanii, a kak raz naoborot: my, umelo, primenyaem svoe tvorchestvo naperekor prirode. Mihail, postaraisya predstavit', chto svet - eto krugi na vode. Obraznost', skorost', sila i pr. atributy materii est', a sut' voda. Svet - ne materiya, a deformaciya sredy FV. Esli interesno: sharovye molnii, mozhno sozdavat' ot dvuh istochnikov (toka i napryazheniya), v srede vakuuma, chem ne materiya?

Re[8]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. V. Komogorov, 22.04.2010 1:23, 1.8 KBait, otvetov: 2) Zdravstvuite dorogie, moi! Cherezvychaino stydno, kogda deti, na igrushkah pokazyvayut vzroslym dyad'kam, kak nado ispol'zovat' smysl dvizheniya, a ne broska! Shkol'nik izobrel boevuyu vintovku! Eh vy skazochnye dostizheniya. Vzroslyi chelovek bolee 10 let govorit vam ob induktivnosti sredy, a vy igrushkami detskim vostorgaetes'! Tot zhe princip: postavite na odnu os', IDP (indukcionno dinamicheskii privod) i EDP (elektromagnitnyi). IDP s obratnym diodom, tiristor s emkost'yu i, zabivaite dyubelya v beton. Dvumya silami priroda dvizhet, dva nachala v Sozdannom. Skoro deti nauchatsya delat' platformy Grebennikova, poluchaya dozy gamma-izlucheniya. V mire vse znachitel'no proshe, chem vy sebe vydumali. Vnuki budut smeyat'sya nad vami i vashimi frazami, v kotoryh dazhe net obraza, odna chernaya dyra, kak nadezhda! Uchites' u shkol'nikov. (O sharovoi molnii. Ottenok mozhno menyat' po zhelaniyu zakazchika, kak i razmer puzyrya. My ispol'zovali vakuumnuyu kameru s dvigayushimsya kontaktom. Vakuum nepremenno, inache inorodnaya sreda v srede).

Re[9]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (Mihail Petrov, 24.04.2010 16:43, 820 Bait, otvetov: 1) "Vzroslyi dyad'ka, kotoryi govorit ob induktivnosti"... K primeru, K.F.Gauss ne govoril, a operiroval vektorami i differencialami, a ne numerologiei, chtoby poluchit' veskie dokazatel'stva, prezhde chem delat' zayavleniya... Poprobuite ne "govorit'" i ne opisyvat' shemu, prosto chto-nibud' sdelat' samostoyatel'no: primenite matematiku, rasschitaite vektory, gradienty, geometriyu eksperimenta, reshite uravnenie, kogda, naprimer, snaryad ne soprikasaetsya so stenkami stvola... Vidite, skol'ko slavy poluchil yunnyi izobretatel' za kazalos' by detskuyu igrushku. Predstav'te, skol'ko mozhno poluchi' za ser'eznoe izobretenie! Konechno, rel'sotrony uzhe davno razrabatyvayut i testiruyut naprimer v SShA. No eto ne umen'shaet slavy izobretatelya zdes', gde net dostupa k tamoshnim zasekrechennym razrabotkam. Maksim Kotel'nikov rulit!

Re[10]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. V. Komogorov, 26.04.2010 5:24, 494 Bait)
Misha, mozhno bylo by popytat'sya ob'yasnit', chto takoe IDP i chem on otlichaetsya ot EDP, i kak oni rabotayut vmeste, no tvoe predlozhenie rasschitat' dvizhenie puli v stvole, a uzh sravnit' ego s rel'sotronom - tupik. Sporit' mozhno tol'ko s tem chelovekom, kotoryi sposoben ponyat', chto v etot raz, on ne prav (Ekkl).

Re[5]: Kosmos. Vselennaya. Nauka (V. V. Komogorov, 19.04.2010 9:28, 2.4 KBait)
Uvazhaemyi. Vasilii Petrov, dopuskayu, chto nelegko ponyat', pochemu dve, odinakovye velichiny, ne odinakovy. Primer: dva istochnika el. energii, s odinakovym vyhodnym napryazheniem 220 V. Odin iz istochnikov, vklyuchen kak transformator toka. Dlya priemnika, utyuga, chainika i matematiki vse v poryadke. No, esli ob'edinit' eti energii, budet !!!, SVET, edinaya sreda, v kotoroi prisutstvuyut toki smesheniya. Vot Anatolii Vasilich i govorit, chto sreda FV, pri ee induktivnom haraktere, imeet dve sostavlyayushie, vertikal'nuyu i, prodol'nuyu. Kazhdaya otvechaet za svoi vid sobytii. Oglyanites' na prirodu: EST' SILA PARUSA I SILA PERA, Energiya napolneniya poverhnosti i energiya el.staticheskih vzaimodeistvii poverhnosti so sredoi. BLAGODARYa N'YuTONU, LYuDI NAUChILIS' PRODAVAT' VIDIMYE BOGATSTVA NEDR, NE PONIMAYa IH NERAZRYVNUYu SVYaZ' SO SREDO', SOSTAVNO' ChAST'Yu KOTORO', YaVLYaETSYa SAM ChELOVEK.