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A.P. Vasi · 17.04.2010 21:51

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A.P. Vasi · 11.09.2013 23:53

Napominayu tem kto ne v kurse, -
vse moi idei eto moya vydumka, i fantastika,
i ya zvezdun skazochnik, i skazochnyi zvezdun.

Sobstvenno moi podgonki pod rezul'tat
ne dolzhny - udivlyat'.

Ya naprimer v neopredelennoi situacii, v kakom-to
bazovom voprose, a ih sotni tri, i che kak rybak
zhdu poklevki ili ozhidayu sovpadenii po kakim-to
priznakam, a potom - chestno govorya protivorechu
svoim starym ideyam i pridumyvayu novye,
takaya zhestokaya selyavi, vremya vechno,
vse techet i opredeleniya menyayutsya, stabil'na
tol'ko - ob'ektivnost', i za nei tozhe nado pospevat'.

A.P. Vasi · 21.09.2013 22:34

Vertikal'naya skorost' efira.

Chto sobstvenno est' global'noi oshibkoi kotoruyu ne

zamechayut pri opredelenii skorosti efira.

Logichno opredelitsya s razmerami chastic, -

zdes' razmer chasticy efira opredelyaetsya kak skorost' sveta delennaya na skorost' zvuka, poluchaetsya trista millionov

metrov v sekundu podelit' na okruglyaem trista metrov

v sekundu, - vyvod razmer chasticy efira v million raz men'she

chem razmer atoma vozduha.

Esli perevernut' vverh nogami cvetnoi malogabaritnyi televizor, s kineskopom to sinii cvet ekrana stanovitsya krasnym.

Otklonenie lucha 0.5mm, skorost' atomarnyh oskolkov

uvlekaemyh Elektroi 0.3 skorosti sveta, chto ravno sto

millionov metrov v sekundu.

Ugol otkloneniya 0.3gradusa, delim popolam =0.15 gradusov

tak kak perevorachivanie udvaivaet velichinu vozdeistviya.

Vot zdes' uzhe postulat razmer atomarnogo oskolka raven

razmeru chasticy efira.

Esli skorost' byla by ravna, - to otklonenie bylo 45 gradusov,

uznaem skorost' efira. Dlya etogo nado podelit' 45 gradusov

na 0.15 ravno raznica skorostei v 300 raz efir medlenee

chem letyat atomarnye oskolki v kineskope, teper' nado

podelit' skorost' atomarnoi chasticy na 300, -100 000 000m/s

delit' na trista itogo okruglyaem 300 000m/s chto ravno 300km/s.

Logichno predpolagat', chto chastica efira raz v desyat' men'she atomarnogo oskolka, to skorost' poluchitsya 3 000km/s.

A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 0:52

Da peregretaya razletayushayasya galaktika
v sosednei galaktike svoim vysokim davleniem efira
sdelala prakticheski vse zvezdy sinimi.

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Re: "Neobychnye" ob'ekty vo Vselennoi

Otvet #651 : Segodnya v 08:58:21

M60-UCD1 neobychnyi ob'ekt, nahodyashiisya v 54 mln svetovyh let ot Zemli i schitayushiisya odnoi iz samyh strannyh galaktik v etoi chasti Vselennoi.
Eta galaktika tipichnyi sputnik bolee krupnoi ellipticheskoi NGC 4649 (ona zhe M 60). Sputnik, kak eto chasto byvaet, imeet ves'ma maluyu massu v 200 mln solnechnyh, vot tol'ko ee polovina sosredotochena v sfere radiusom... v 80 svetovyh let. Sledovatel'no, plotnost' upakovki tamoshnih zvezd v 15 tys. raz bol'she, chem v okolozemnoi chasti nashei Galaktiki, a srednee rasstoyanie mezhdu svetilami ustupaet mestnomu mezhzvezdnomu prostranstvu v 25 raz. To est' esli mezhdu nami i blizhaishei zvezdoi, skazhem, 4,37 svetovyh goda, to v M60-UCD1 blizhaishii sosed otstoyal by ot nas na kakie-to 1,75 trln km.
Eto blizhe oblaka Oorta!

http://compulenta.computerra.ru/universe/astronomy/10009158/

Galaktika kak ogromnoe sharovoe skoplenie, da eshe, po-vidimomu, s bol'shoi SChD v centre.

A vot roditel'skaya galaktika [/color][/url] s drugim spiral'nym sosedom vyshe-sprava.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_60_(%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0)

A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 0:55

To chto sinyaya galaktika v neposredstvennoi blizosti ukazyvaet ee
iskazhennaya forma ellipsa.

A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 1:00

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A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 1:01

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A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 1:32

Ochen' interesnaya situaciya, byla galaktika kotoraya nahodilas'

Kak ya pisal ranee

-No est' odno bol'shoe no - chto sobstvenno proishodit v zhizni
galaktiki - ona mozhet byt' v shesti temperaturnyh sostoyaniyah,
1 ustoichivo holodnaya,
2 nagrevayushayasya,
3 sbalansirovannaya,
4 peregrevayushayasya,
5 ustoichivo goryachaya
6 ostyvayushaya-

Sinyaya galaktika byla peregrevayushayasya, tak kak u nee
nachala obrazovyvat'sya gryazevaya pelena, kotoraya uhudshaet
sbros tepla v prostranstvo galaktikoi, i povyshaet sredne-galakticheskuyu
temperaturu.

Smeshno sobstvenno ne ta situaciya kotoraya nablyudaetsya v dannoi
situacii, a smeshno chto budet s etoi sinei galaktikoi kogda davlenie
efira snizitsya v prostranstve, tak kak zvezdy etoi galaktiki
nakopyat vnutri sebya namnogo bol'shee kolichestvo efira, po prichine
vysokoi plotnosti efira v prostranstve.
Posle chego vot eta sinyaya galaktika, tak sbrosit efir izbytochnyi
chto eto prosto nechto.

Estestvenno situaciya pohozhaya v nachal'noi stadii, kogda eshe
ne vse zvezdy sinie.

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A vot zdes' ne ochen' ponyatno.

Hotya situaciya analogichnaya, tol'ko vidno
chto uzhe central'naya chast' sinei galaktiki
srazu pereshla iz sostoyaniya ustoichivo holodnoi -
v sostoyanie ustoichivo goryachei, pri tom chto okraina
sinei galaktiki stanet po idee eshe bolee sinei,
tak kak davlenie efira vysokoe azh dal'she nekuda.

Odnako ya i ne ozhidal takih dinamichnyh situacii.

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/opo0415b/

Full HST ACS Image of AM 0644-741

A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 1:56

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Tak eto zhe voobshe vse ponyatno. Nizhnyaya galaktika
dula vo vse storony efirom, srednyaya nakopila
efira i ee deformirovalo po prichine blizosti,
i ona davno nakopila izbytochnyi efir, o chem
daet ponyat' verhnyaya sosednyaya galaktika,
kotoruyu tozhe deformirovalo, i u
kotoroi vse zvezdy sinie,
a u srednei galaktiki - centr galaktiki mezhdu dvuh rukavov
razletaetsya vdrebezgi, da tak chto ogo-go.

I vidno chto ugol deformacii verhnei sinei galaktiki, napravlen
na nizhnyuyu galaktiku, sledovatel'no davlenie efira ot
srednei izognutoi galaktiki, ot razletayusheisya ee
central'noi chasti do sinei verhnei galaktiki eshe ne doshlo, tak kak
ne tot ugol by byl v otklonenii elipsa.

A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 9:25

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Tak eto zhe voobshe vse ponyatno. Nizhnyaya galaktika
dula vo vse storony efirom, srednyaya nakopila
efira i ee deformirovalo po prichine blizosti,
i ona davno nakopila izbytochnyi efir, o chem
daet ponyat' verhnyaya sosednyaya galaktika,
kotoruyu tozhe deformirovalo, i u
kotoroi vse zvezdy sinie,
a u srednei galaktiki - centr galaktiki mezhdu dvuh rukavov
razletaetsya vdrebezgi, da tak chto ogo-go.

I vidno chto ugol deformacii verhnei sinei galaktiki, napravlen
na nizhnyuyu galaktiku, sledovatel'no davlenie efira ot
srednei izognutoi galaktiki, ot razletayusheisya ee
central'noi chasti do sinei verhnei galaktiki eshe ne doshlo, tak kak
ne tot ugol by byl v otklonenii ellipsa.

A.P. Vasi · 27.09.2013 9:26

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Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.

Re: "Neobychnye" ob'ekty vo Vselennoi

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