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Re[2]: Chernaya dyra
3.01.2011 23:16 | G. A. Zubkov
Naschet elektronov ya chital takoe oficial'noe ob'yasnenie:kogda v provode techet tok,sami elektrony dvizhutsya medlenno-mm/ sekundu,zato oni bystro peredayut drug drugu svoimi ottalkivayushimi polyami energiyu toka,zaryad,i tok dvizhetsya pochti so skorost'yu sveta. Vy voobshe chitali stat'yu pro chernye dyry na moem saite http:// genzubkov.narod.ru/ ? Ya tam vse logichno podrobno ob'yasnil ,a do vas nikak ne ''doidet'',skol'ko ya tut ne pytayus' ob'yasnit'. ChD prohodit skvoz' ChD,tak kak oni do kasaniya- stolknoveniya uspevayut razognat'sya do skorosti s (ili 2s). Pri skorosti s vnutrennee vremya ne idet,potomu moment vhoda v sferu ChD i vyhoda iz nee dlya kosmonavta sol'yutsya v odin mig. Naschet zakona sohraneniya energii:gravitaciya- eto voobshe sploshnoe ego narushenie.Planeta nas i predmety prityagivaet,a energiyu na eto ne tratit (esli ne vnikat' v nyuansy- energiyu svyazi). Chem bol'she massa ChD,tem bol'she ee gravitaciya,uskorenie,priobretennaya kineticheskaya energiya. Kuda devaetsya energiya? Kogda chernye dyry proletyat drug skvoz' druga,svoimi polyami oni drug druga nachnut tormozit'.Tak chto skol'ko gravitacionnoi energii ushlo na ih sblizhenie,stol'ko zhe energii uidet na ih tormozhenie. I poluchitsya v itoge,chto skorost' (kineticheskaya energiya) galaktik ne izmenitsya,prosto oni perenesli drug druga v prostranstve.Naschet gravitacionnyh linz: est' mnogo fotografii kosmosa,na kotoryh vidno iskrivlenie sveta gravitaciei (a mozhet byt' eto prosto prelomlenie- imho) ,vidny kak by chasti linz,serpy. Formula radiusa Shvarcshil'da R=2GM/c^2. Vyvedem zavisimost' radiusa Shvarcshil'da ot plotnosti sredy. M=pV=p(4/3)PIR^3 . R=[2Gp(4/3)PIR^3]/ c^2 .Sokrashaya R,poluchaem: R=sqrt [(3c^2)/(8GpPI)] .Otsyuda vidno,chto radius ChD obratno proporcionalen kvadratnomu kornyu iz plotnosti ChD. Znachit,chem bol'she radius ChD,tem men'shei mozhet byt' ee plotnost'. Nashi uchenye po krasnomu smesheniyu svoimi metodami vychislili,chto plotnost' nashei vidimoi Vselennoi (Metagalaktiki) 1.773298*10^-28 m.Esli etu plotnost' podstavit' v formulu vyshe,to poluchim R=10^25 m,chto sovpadaet s real'nym- oficial'no prinyatym radiusom Metagalaktiki.Vot i vyhodit,chto nasha vselennaya- nevidimaya Chernaya dyra,Graviteleport dlya nablyudatelei iz drugih,vneshnih Vselennyh.Hotya po moei teorii veshestvo vnutri ChD ne rasshiryaetsya. Pro gravitaciyu Fotonnoi sfery,sovpadayushei so sferoi Metagalaktiki,pisal na svoem saite odin uchenyi,pozzhe utochnyu.Smysl v tom,chto chasticy,pokidayushie nashu Vselennuyu,po relyativistskomu zakonu,dostigaya skorosti sveta(a fotony- uvelichivaya chastotu),stanovyatsya beskonechno tyazhelymi,a znachit obladayut sil'noi gravitaciei,kotoraya i rasshiryaet vo vse storony nashu vselennuyu. No est' uchenye(naprimer Grishaev http:// newfiz.narod.ru/ ),dokazyvayushie,chto vse polya takzhe imeyut predel skorosti=s. Eto nazyvaetsya tipa Lorencevskoe preobrazovanie polya.Potomu polya relyativistskih chastic slabee,chem pokoyashihsya.Takzhe i polya potomu ne pospevayut za relyativistskimi chasticami.
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