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Re[2]: Chernaya dyra
14.08.2011 12:07 | A.P. Vasi
Ya lichno voobshe ne ponimayu togo s kakim userdiem
vse zanimayutsya krasnym smesheniem.
Kak glyadya s tochki zreniya fizika
vynuli zdravyi smysl i polozhili ego na polku i poshli
zanimat'sya tret'estepennymi zadachami.
Dazhe s tochki zreniya fiziki eta zadacha reshatsya
cherez postanovku opytov fizicheskih s analogichnoi
analogiei - vot etogo nikto ne delaet.
A osnovnye zadachi nikto staraetsya ne zamechat', -
ono udobno polozhit' zdravyi smysl na polku i
zhdat' kogda pridut lyubiteli i na halyavu
reshat astronomam vse trudnosti.
Vot osnovnye zadachi - kuda devaetsya teplo
i pochemu v kosmose holodno?
Pochemu vnutri zvezdy net vodoroda?
A vse ostal'nye voprosy poka net otveta
na eti dva eto prosto klounada.
Povtoryu eshe pro BV.
\Esli u predmeta obsuzhdeniya po fizike,
net odnoznachnogo obsheprinyatogo opredeleniya -
to rassuzhdeniya po etomu predmetu - boltovnya bessmyslennaya.
Boltovnya bessmyslennaya - ona iz sostavlyayushih
neponyatnyh i neobosnovannyh teorii v fizike.
Kogda Vy soglashaetes' s podobnymi teoriyami
- bud'te bditel'ny, Vam v etom sluchai za Vashe zhito budut
vechno neponyatno rasskazyvat' o neponyatnom, i
pri etom budete vyglyadet' glupo i ne sposobnym
ponyat' genial'noe.
Ladno chto budete vyglyadet' vsyu zhizn' glupo,
tak Vy eshe i bessmyslenno potratite uimu vremeni,
a eto ne vremya, eto Vy svoyu zhizn' potratite
na to v chem ne mozhet byt' rezul'tata.
Temnaya energiya i temnaya materiya iznachal'no
byli pridumany kak podporki paradigmy,
u kotoroi energiya zvezd neponyatno kuda devaetsya v
pustoi pustote, po etoi prichine kogda v pustoi
pustote est' zvezdy, to pogloshat' teplovuyu energiyu
mogut tol'ko Chernye Dyry, no dlya poglosheniya
energii Chernyh Dyr okazalos' nedostatochno, tochnee
ih nado v tysyachu raz bol'she chem zvezd chtoby bylo,
a uchityvaya chto oficial'no ne obnaruzhili ne
odnoi dyry, po tem parametram o kotoryh govoril
avtor, a potom avtor peredumal i pomenyal reshenie,
a potom astronomy poslali avtora s ego opredeleniyami
vdal' i stali iskat' i nazyvat' Chernymi Dyrami
to chto im nravitsya a ne to o chem govoril avtor, vot
togda i stalo ponyatno chto obshestvo poshlet
v dalekuyu dal' esli skazat' chto chernyh
dyr v 1000 raz bol'she chem zvezd. I reshili
utilizirovat' rasshireniem vselennoi,
a potom reshili i uskorennoi, tol'ko ne uchli
chto i v etot lohotron mnogo tepla ot zvezd ne pomestitsya,
i potom na temnuyu energiyu i temnuyu materiyu reshili
sprosit' vse teplo metodom perebrosa massy,
i skazali chto massa temnoi materii i temnoi
energii stol'ko to procentov. No pri etom
opyat' ne skladyvaetsya - v bol'shom vzryve to eta
massa ne uchtena, a esli vsya massa materii
pri bol'shom vzryve razogreta do milliona gradusov,
to ohladit'sya ona mozhet peredav energiyu
drugim telam, a v vakuume - pustoi
pustote drugih tel net, sledovatel'no
esli uchityvat' temnuyu materiyu i temnuyu energiyu
pri bol'shom vzryve to posle vzryva veshestvo
ne smozhet v pustote ostyt' i budet goryachim vechno.\
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