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A.P. Vasi · 17.04.2010 21:51

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A.P. Vasi · 7.10.2013 1:54

Galaktiki
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Star Clusters Born Among the Interacting Galaxies of Stephan's Quintet

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Lenticular Galaxy in the Coma Cluster with Numerous Background Galaxies, a Detail of a Larger Hubble Image

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Spiral Galaxy in the Coma Cluster, Part of a Larger Hubble Image

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Seyfert's Sextet: Four Colliding Galaxies, and Two Bystanders

A.P. Vasi · 17.10.2013 0:31

Kraine ne hochetsya mne pisat' stat'yu pro galaktiki,
ne znayu dazhe pochemu, chto-to mne podskazyvaet
chto prosto za nee nichego ne zaplatyat dazhe, a potom
budut vse komu ne len' mne rasskazyvat' chto takoe
- Zvezda Efira, i vse moi idei budut mne pereskazyvat'
kto na svoi maner, a kto na relyativistskii, a kto i
lekcii budet po moim ideyam platnye rasskazyvat' -
i utverzhdat' chto lekciya im napisannaya,
dazhe po moim ideyam eto ego - lichnyi trud,
i on mne avtorskih otchislenii delat' ne dolzhen.

Odnim slovom bol'she protiv chem - za.

A s drugoi tochki zreniya, - relyativizm esli budet
dal'she procvetat' - to kak dlya menya i drugih al'tov,
sobstvenno eto fora vo vremeni, i vozmozhnost'
porabotat' nad svoimi oshibkami. Kak po mne
ya by efir i ne vvodil by v nauku blizhaishie
let tridcat' - smysla net.
Estestvenno ya pomnyu chto ya pisal, chto dlya molodezhi ya napishu
pro efir stat'yu,
- nebol'shuyu obzornuyu stat'yu -
" Pro holodnyi efir i goryachie zvezdy v prostranstve" ,
nemnogo i pro galaktiki napishu,
ibo oni ne vinovaty chto proizoshla
neopredelennaya situaciya v kosmologii.

A.P. Vasi · 17.10.2013 0:34

Samoe smeshnoe chto v referiruemom zhurnale
napisat' stat'yu grubo govorya bez referirovaniya,
kak dlya Ukrainy budet 500 ... />
Ya moral'no ne gotov takie sol'dy na veter brosat'.

A.P. Vasi · 18.10.2013 21:16

Galaktiki
sortirovannye s tem chto est' tol'ko u nih
- a eto i tak vidno.

Galaxy
NGC 2397 with an explosive secret

Dramatically
backlit dust lanes in NGC 7049

An Abrasive Collision Gives One Galaxy a

Hubble Snaps Images of a Pinwheel-Shaped Galaxy

Star-birth
party almost over in NGC 2976

Composite ultraviolet-visible-infrared
image of NGC 1512

A.P. Vasi · 20.10.2013 12:52

Galaktiki v stile - doloi neadekvat v kosmologii,

i v stile -da kto-zhe pustit adekvat v kosmologiyu?.

Sobstvenno est' osnovnaya plohaya cherta vseh

izobrazhenii galaktik eto ih neadekvatnoe foto.

Galaktika dolzhna byt' v video formate,

i eta dinamichnaya kartinka dolzhna imet'

vozmozhnost' menyaet svoi masshtab ot 3% do 300%

na izobrazhenii.

Estestvenno chto dolzhna byt' 3D, versiya

s vozmozhnost'yu perenaznachat' rasstoyaniya do massivov zvezd.

Delo v tom chto pri izobrazhenii prosto galaktiki

ne vidno ih vliyanii i vzaimovliyanii, kak galaktik

na galaktiki, tak i vliyanii galaktik na otklonenie

izobrazhenii i cvet zvezd nedaleko ot galaktik.

Chto v tekushii moment tvorit oficial'naya astronomiya

zakovannaya bol'shim vzryvom, kruche kandalov.

Kratko chem krasnee galaktika tem ona dal'she,

i ona ot nas uletaet, a esli galaktika sinyaya ona blizhe

i dvizhetsya v nashu storonu.

Dokazat' chto podobnye utverzhdeniya urovnya neadekvata

dostatochno legko bylo-by, -

esli by byli video s masshtabirovaniem

galaktik, i posle prosmotra razlichnyh izobrazhenii

galaktik lyuboi zdravomyslyashii shkol'nik starshih

klassov nashel by vzaimosvyaz' i zametil by

chto po vliyaniyu odnih galaktik na drugie oni

fizicheski ne to chto ryadom, a drug u druga na golovah

sidyat, hotya koordinal'no otlichayutsya po cvetu.

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Zdes' i tak vidno chto proishodit, Sinyaya galaktika

razrezaetsya vzryvayusheisya i razletayusheisya

v prostranstvo krasnovatoi galaktikoi.

I sinyaya galaktika potomu i sinyaya chto na nee vliyaet

drugaya galaktika.

Chance
Alignment Between Galaxies Mimics a Cosmic Collision

Situaciya analogichnaya predydushei.

V sleduyushem izobrazhenii vidno vliyanie
v vide togo chto blizhnie zvezdy sinei galaktiki
kotorye vozle krasnovatoi perenasyshayutsya.

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Nu zdes' i tak vidno vliyanie razletayushihsya
galaktik.

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I kak govoritsya klassika
neadekvata v astronomii s ih bol'shim vzryvom.

STScI-PRC2012-38

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Ochen' interesnaya situaciya, byla galaktika kotoraya nahodilas'

Kak ya pisal ranee

-No est' odno bol'shoe no - chto sobstvenno proishodit v zhizni
galaktiki - ona mozhet byt' v shesti temperaturnyh sostoyaniyah,
1 ustoichivo holodnaya,
2 nagrevayushayasya,
3 sbalansirovannaya,
4 peregrevayushayasya,
5 ustoichivo goryachaya
6 ostyvayushaya-

Sinyaya galaktika byla peregrevayushayasya, tak kak u nee
nachala obrazovyvat'sya gryazevaya pelena, kotoraya uhudshaet
sbros tepla v prostranstvo galaktikoi, i povyshaet sredne-galakticheskuyu
temperaturu.

Smeshno sobstvenno ne ta situaciya kotoraya nablyudaetsya v dannoi
situacii, a smeshno chto budet s etoi sinei galaktikoi kogda davlenie
efira snizitsya v prostranstve, tak kak zvezdy etoi galaktiki
nakopyat vnutri sebya namnogo bol'shee kolichestvo efira, po prichine
vysokoi plotnosti efira v prostranstve.
Posle chego vot eta sinyaya galaktika, tak sbrosit efir izbytochnyi
chto eto prosto nechto.

Estestvenno situaciya pohozhaya v nachal'noi stadii, kogda eshe
ne vse zvezdy sinie.

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A.P. Vasi · 29.10.2013 23:11

A larchik prosto otkryvalsya
dvizh odnorodnoi sredy vert-gor, s-la
na gruz na tren -laminar i kavitac-rezonans.

A.P. Vasi · 29.10.2013 23:33

Chtoby ob'yasnit' pochemuzvezdy svetyat
a kosmos v obshem holodnyi pridumali
bol'shoi vzryv, energii u zvezd okazalos'
mnogo pridumali uskorennoe rasshirenie
bol'shogo vzryva, a eto tozhe ne smoglo
reshit' vopros lishnei energii zvezd,
to potom chernye dyry pridumali, -
a esli okazhetsya chto avtor chernyh
dyr lohanulsya , i chernyh dyr net,
to togda budet uskorenno - pereuskorennoe
rasshirenie vselennoi.

A voobshe sam hod mysli eto krasapeta intellekta.

A.P. Vasi · 29.10.2013 23:59

A krasapeta intellekta to besposhadna.

I poetomu byli pridumany eshe i temnaya materiya
i temnaya energiya - kotorye v svoei masse soderzhat
bolee 90% materii vselennoi - ya dazhe ne sdelayu
novizny -
chto i oni sobstvenno primenyayutsya dlya utilizacii energii
izlucheniya zvezd.

A u kosmosa to temperatura ne zvezdnogo tepla -
a moroz po samoe ne-baluisya.

A smeshno to chto vse - zvezdy i materiya, mozhet tol'ko - nagrevat'
v kosmose, ohlazhdat' mozhet tol'ko rasshirenie,
ili peredacha tepla temnoi materii, ili konservaciya
v dvizhenii na cikl - temnaya energiya.

S takimi ideyami eto prosto - ku- ku - i dva prisedaniya pered edoi.

A.P. Vasi · 30.10.2013 0:07

Ya dumayu chto ne udivlyu nikogo v tom,
chto holodnye temnaya materiya i temnaya energiya
ne prinimali uchastiya v bol'shom vzryve,
ibo esli by i oni byli raskalennye pod million
gradusov.

Ai da kosmologiya - fantastika po sravneniyu
s kosmologiei, eto dokumental'nye istorii.

A.P. Vasi · 30.10.2013 0:23

Mne estestvenno mnenie relyativistov
chto dlya nih al'ternativshik - eto ne ih drug
po otnosheniyu k ih mirovozreniyu,
to taki da, no po svoei suti lyuboi al'ternativshik
horoshii i luchshe relyativistov.
Luchshe relyativistov uzhe potomu chto oni chto-to pridumali
samostoyatel'no.
A u al'tov idei to tozhe raznye,
tak kak u nih
prosto drugie idei otlichayushiesya ot relyativiststkih.
I relyativisty prosto v svoei masse - relyativisty po bezhdeniyu -
a kak voz'mesh' za zdes', voprosom po suti, to tam uzhe
srazu vse i srazu slivayut vodu, mol ne ya pridumal
i ne mne otvechat' na dannyi vopros.