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Re: Chernaya dyra
30.11.2011 12:17 | A.P. Vasi
Novaya situaciya na forume, uchastniki obsuzhdeniya
priblizhayutsya k tomu chtoby nagnut' relyativistov
i zdes' poyavlyaetsya "vibenok" i mashet pravilami
foruma
i ne daet prodolzhatsya diskussii.
S drugoi tochki zreniya "vibenok" prost kak kusok
..., emu nado chtoby avtor povedal emu nyuansy,
posle etogo mozhno
zapustit' poisk resheniya
metodom "ansamblya", dlya etogo nado imet'
ansambl', a u "vibenka" on est'.
Tak vot posle togo kak avtor rasskazyvaet
o nyuansah, "vibenok" na zakrytom obsuzhdenii
ot drugih, razdaet svoim studentam zadachi
s etimi nyuansami, posle chego rezul'taty
on budit svodit'
po srednemu, po luchshemu variantu
on ne smozhet tak kak on ne fizik, posle chego
pririsovyvaet formuly s pomosh'yu
programmy "matematika" i bezhit potom
zashishat'sya na novuyu stepen'.
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Da
mogu, konechno, odnako ne vizhu neobhodimosti obrushivat' srazu lavinu
novyh znanii na auditoriyu, slabo znakomuyu so specifikoi sploshnoi sredy.
Zachem "gnat' loshadei"?
"vibenok"
Zatem, chto takovy pravila, prinyatye v razdele.
O razdele Gorizonty nauki o Vselennoi.Vvidu
ser'eznosti rassmatrivaemyh mirovozzrencheskih problem, u menya bol'shaya
pros'ba k Vam, gospodin moderator: pozvolit' diskussii razvivat'sya tak,
kak ona i razvivaetsya. Nespeshno, no v napravlenii korrelyacii s
Real'nost'yu i zakonami klassicheskoi fiziki.
"vibenok"
Vy special'no dlya menya srazu
napishite, zachem nuzhna Vasha teoriya, kak ee mozhno proverit'
eksperimental'no. Ya na etom uspokoyus', i diskussiya smozhet spokoino i
nespeshno razvivat'sya hot' v napravlenii real'nosti, hot' v napravlenii
klassicheskoi fiziki.
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Vibenok narushaet pravila foruma i dazhe sam ne ponimaet
chto imenno narushaet
- marazm i star perenie beret svoe.
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Dmitrii Vibe: To
est', poka dokazat' nuzhnost' svoei teorii Vy ne mozhete?
Chital gde-to, chto elektrodinamicheskaya teoriya Maksvella poluchila
priznanie daleko ne srazu. I glavnym vozrazheniem byl tezis o tom, chto,
"mozhet byt', matematicheski i vse verno - no eto sovershenno bespolezno, a potomu i obsuzhdat' fizikam nechego..."
"vibenok"
Interesno, kak Maksvell na eto reagiroval. Brodil po telegrafnym forumam i nyl, chto ego nikto ne ponimaet?
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Pravilami etogo foruma ne zapreshaetsya
vyskazyvat' svoe ob'ektivnoe mnenie o moderatore s drugogo foruma.
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