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"Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 27.09.2005 23:08

V seredine sentyabrya v presse i Internete prokatilas' ocherednaya volna soobshenii o "skoroi gibeli Zemli". V konce dekabrya 2004 goda Zemlya uzhe "chut' ne pogibla" ot moshnogo kosmicheskogo gamma-vspleska. Na sei raz budto...
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Re[4]: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 14.11.2005 11:03

Delo v to
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Re[5]: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 14.11.2005 11:05

Delo v tom, chto rastoyanie 28000 svetovyh let nel'zya preodolet' bystree, chem za 28000 let. Tak chto stat'ya - ochevidnaya glupaya pugalka dlya lyudei, zabyvshih kurs fiziki za srednyuyu shkolu. Imenno poetomu ya schitayu lichnoe samoobrazovaniem ves'ma aktual'nym.
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Re: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 2.02.2006 18:33

Est' vyhod tol'ko odin, esli vsei solnechnoi siteme, skoro kirdyk, to nuzhno vseh spasti, glavnoe v cheloveke chto ? konechno mozg i soznanie. Zadacha na 9 let: Sozdat' komp'yuter sposobnyi skopirovat' mozg cheloveka ( vertual'nuyu kopiyu) sozdat' virtual'nyi mir vsego zemnogo shara v podrobnostyah. Chtoby bylo gde zhit', v processe usovershenstvovat'. Zanesti vseh kto hochet zhit' v obshuyu bazu. Sozdat' super korabl' i zapustit' ego vo VSELENNUYuupravlenie korablem konechno dat' lyudyam a oni sami vibirut gde im prizemlitsya , a tam pozhivem uvidemtol'ko v "Virtual'nom mire". Vsya koloniya v malen'koi korobochke. Tak chto nachinaem.!!!Da, mozhno parochku zhivyh adama i evu posadit' zhiv'em v korabl'. Skol'ko prozhivut, a v drug povizet i planeta podobnaya nashei vstretitsya im na puti.
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Re[4]: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 8.03.2006 0:07

Shocked Ya stat'yu eshe ne prochital, no uzhe ne ponyal. Kak mozhet oblako, nahodyasheesya ot nas na rastoyanii 28000 sv.let, dostignut' Zemli cherez 9 let? S kakoi skorost'yu ono togda k nam priblizhaetsya? Kto-nibud' mozhet ob'yasnit', ili mne stat'yu snachala prochitat'?
S uvazheniem, A. Kabel'man.
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Re[5]: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 5.05.2006 14:49

Esli vy vnimatel'no chitali, to na rasstoyanii 28000 svetovyh let nahoditsya ne oblako, a sama dyra. Tak chto oblako vpolne uzhe mozhet byt' "na podlete" uchityvaya plotnost' veshestva iz kotorogo sostoyat chernye dyry (gde-to chital chto esli by nashasolnechnaya sistemasostoyala iz veshestva takoi plotnosti, to ona umestilas' by vsya v chainuyu lozhku),ne isklyucheno, chtostartovaya skorost' bylasumashedshei. Za vremya puti skorost' mogla snizitsya do skorosti sveta, no togda pochemu oblako zametili tol'ko na rasstoyanii 8 svetovyh let?

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Re[6]: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 7.05.2006 23:59

Vspyshki na rasstoyanii 28 000 svetovyh let o kotoryh mankind uznaet iz pressy eto, navernoe, ochen' interesno. Nichto tak ne podnimaet tirazhi kak predskazanie ocherednogo apokalipsisa. Letit kometa (asteroid 'razmerom s Tehas'), missiya NASA, i t.p. i t.d. Mne kazhetsya vse eto detskim utrennikom po sravneniem s etim nezametnym (po sravneniyu s razvalivayushimisya kometami, shal'nymi asteroidami i prochei erundoi) http://www.astronet.ru/db/msg/1212447. Punkt 3. Mozhet ya ne prav, no v odin moment vsya civilizaciya stala pohozhei na muraveinik raspolozhennyi na krayu ogromnogo lesa. My s gordost'yu mozhem skazat', chto odna DVADCAT' PYaTAYa chast' lesa izvestna nam. A ostal'noe prosto 'nechto' ne poddayusheesya ob'yasneniyu s tochki zreniya sovremennoi fiziki. Kogda muravei padaet s kachnuvsheisya travinki, on ne znaet, chto etot legkii veterok mozhet byt' ehom uragana, kotoryi davno valit les vokrug.

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Re[4]: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 19.05.2006 7:00

Spasibo za "luch sveta v ...". My deistvitel'no vyzhivem pri uslovii, esli pereorientiruem kul'turu cheloveka zhuyushego na kul'turu cheloveka poznayushego. Adekvatnaya reakciya na lyubuyu ugrozu mozhet byt' pri uslovii adekvatnogo znaniya. My obyaany otchetlivo osoznat' krizisnoe sostoyanie nauki, chtoby vyiti iz etogo krizisa dostoino, bez razrushenii. Pri uslovii adekvatnogo otrazheniya prirody my uvidim real'nuyu kosmicheskuyu opasnost', kotoruyu pokazyvaet sloi F2 v ionosfere. V kratkoi polemicheskoi replike "EST' VYHOD I KRIZISA", poslanoi v ASTRONET 11.05.06, s dvumya illyustraciyami, mozhno uvidet' fizicheskie osnovaniya dlya etogo zayavleniya v pervom priblizhenii. Bolee obosnovano fizicheskoe znachenie F2 i vozmozhnost' umen'sheniya napryazheniya v sloe do bezopasnogo znacheniya, pokazano v publikacii: Yu.I.Rusinov. Proc. SPIE Vol.5397, p.355-366. . S uvazheniem, Yurii Rusinov
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Re: "Chandra" predrek "konec sveta" 19.06.2006 19:22

Ne obyazatel'no, chto v dannom sluchae"konec sveta" mozhet byt' v vide kakogo-libo fizicheskogo razrusheniya Zemli, tem bolee vse Solnechnoi sistemy. Tomu, chto zhivet ~7mlrd let ne mozhet pomeshat' zhit' dal'she kakoi-to "puk iz chernoi dyry".

Veroyatnee vsego, pod vozdeistviem etogo negativnogo impul'sa, mozhet proizoiti bol'shaya voina sredi lyudei. Chem tupee i bessmyslenee budut lyudi k tomu vremeni, tem bol'she shansov sovershit' obshechelovecheskoe samoubiistvo. 9 let- horoshii srok, chtoby vspomnit' o Razume i popytat'sya povernut' Zhizn' v storonu Yarkogo i Prekrasnogo, i togda nikakaya "von'" iz dal'nego kosmosa nam strashna ne budet :-)

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