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Re: Chernaya dyra
29.02.2012 14:10 | A.P. Vasi
Vot esli pochitat' chto govorit zvezdo-bol po povodu
izluchenii - to iz ego teksta sleduet chto - chitatel' samostoyatel'no
dolzhen vo vsem sam razobrat'sya, i model' sebe postroit'.
Kak mne ne nravyatsya takie klouny kotorye pishut
naukoobraznye stat'i v kotoryh poleznaya informaciya otsutstvuet,
i zadacha etih statei - pokazat' kak avtor stat'i mnogo
znaet - no eti znaniya dutye, iz razryada - naduvatel'stvo.
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http://elementy.ru/lib/430399#radiowaves
Dmitrii Vibe,
doktor fiziko-matematicheskih nauk,
vedushii nauchnyi sotrudnik Instituta astronomii RAN
Ot radiovoln do gamma-luchei
Ot radiovoln do gamma-lucheiPredstavlenie oedinstve fizicheskih zakonov pozvolyaet sdelat' ochen' vazhnoe dopushenie. Pust' my ne mozhem, naprimer, proniknut' vnedra zvezdy ili vyadro galaktiki, chtoby neposredstvenno uvidet' proishodyashie tam processy. No my mozhem logicheski vyvesti eti processy, nablyudaya proizvodimyi imi rezul'tat. Rezul'tatom etim vpodavlyayushem bol'shinstve sluchaev okazyvaetsya svet, tochnee elektromagnitnoe izluchenie vochen' shirokom diapazone chastot, kotoroe my neposredstvenno i registriruem. Vse ostal'noe pomimo izlucheniya predstavlyaet soboyu produkt teoreticheskoi interpretacii nablyudenii, sut' kotoroi zaklyuchena dlya astronomov vprostoi formule OS, toest' nablyudaemoe (observed) minus vychislennoe (computed). Chtoby ponyat' prirodu kakogo-libo ob'ekta, nuzhno postroit' ego model', toest' fiziko-matematicheskoe opisanie proishodyashih vnem processov, azatem spomosh'yu etoi modeli vychislit', kakoe izluchenie dolzhno rozhdat'sya vetom ob'ekte. Dal'she ostaetsya sravnit' predskazaniya modeli s rezul'tatami nablyudenii i, esli sravnenie okazalos' ne vpolne ubeditel'nym, to libo izmenit' parametry imeyusheisya modeli, libo pridumat' novuyu, bolee udachnuyu.
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I etot matematicheskii kloun eshe lechit fizikov.
Za sto let relyativisty ne pridumali nikakoi modeli, chego
oni zhdut, kogda perestanut mechtat', hotya s drugoi tochki zreniya,
fizicheskie modeli mogut pridumat' fiziki, a matematikam
estestvenno takie modeli ne budut nravitsya, tak kak
matematikam pri adekvatnoi fiz modeli vhod v fiziku
budet zakryt na vechno.
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