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Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
3.03.2012 15:22 | V.N. Sergeev
Itak, proanaliziruem nestykovki predlagaemoi modeli s nablyudaemymi faktami. Predpolagaetsya ,chto zvezda vrashaetsya i nastupaet takoi moment, kogda ona rvetsya ili vzryvaetsya, eto v dannom sluchae nevazhno, i razletaetsya na kuski v ploskosti ekvatora. V takom scenarii, chto by kuski leteli v odnoi ploskosti obyazatel'no neobhodimo nalichie ochen' bol'shoi uglovoi skorosti. A eto znachit, chto roi fragmentov v kol'ce prodolzhal by dvigat'sya po krugu s odnovremennym radial'nym razbeganiem. Uvy, my eto ne nablyudaem. Pri nenapravlennom vzryve zvezda rvetsya na raznye po vesu i razmeram fragmenty, kotorye v moment vzryva poluchayut priblizitel'no odinakovyi impul's . V itoge, my poluchili by kol'co znachitel'no shire, sombrero, s pestroi mozaikoi fragmentov s razbrosom po razmeram na neskol'ko poryadkov. A v kol'ce my vidim udivitel'no blizkie po razmeram fragmenty, pravda vozmozhno eto uzhe ne fragmenty a klastery iz nih. Odnako, vremeni na integracionnye processy u vzorvavsheisya zvezdy (esli vzryv, konechno, byl) net, poetomu etot process maloveroyaten. Ishodya iz etogo, predpolagayu, chto vzryva ne bylo, a strukturizaciya zvezdy posle tihogo raspada prohodila po drugim zakonam. Vzryvy byli i ne odin, no uzhe znachitel'no pozzhe, vozmozhno, i cherez 20000 let kak pishut nekotorye avtory, posle obrazovaniya kol'ca, no ne stol' moshnye.
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