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Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
4.03.2012 20:09 | A.P. Vasi
\\\ Ya absolyutno ne pretenduyu na Vash scenarii.\\\
Ya v etom dazhe ne somnevayus'. Ya so svoimi ideyami
kak beshenaya sobaka na forumah byl. Ot moderatorov
ne bylo nikakoi poshady. Normal'noe otnoshenie
na Membrane bylo i zdes'.
Na Membrane i drugih forumah otkryvali razdely
dlya al'ternativnoi fiziki, tak tam zhit'ya ne bylo
vse ravno ot relyativistov. Samoe bol'shoe dlya menya
oskorblenie bylo na populyarnoi mehanike, kogda
ya predlozhil stat'yu pro dinamiku efira napisat'
chtoby deneg zarabotat'. Redaktor otvetil chto gipotez
ne publikuyut. Uchityvaya skol'ko idiotizma ot inostrancev
oni publikuyut v razdele "nauka" o zvezdah, ya byl
prosto oskorblen etim otvetom.
No seichas vse v korne izmenilos' u menya est'
sto procentnyi opyt po obnaruzheniyu
efira, i relyativisty so svoei zadachkoi pro obnaruzhenie
napravleniya padeniya v padayushem lifte okazalis'
ne pravy, takie ustroistva byli i davno, tol'ko o
nih nikto i ne dogadyvalsya.
Vnutri padayushego lifta opredelit' gde veh a gde
niz proshe prostogo, dlya etogo dostatochno nebol'shogo
cvetnogo televizora, i akkumulyatora s preobrazovatelem
napryazheniya, dlya raboty televizora.
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta. | 11.07.201119:59 | |||
Prostoe fundamental'noe otkrytie. V sredine vos'midesyatyh ya kogda pol'zovalsya oscillografom, po neobhodimosti postavil ego vertikal'no, i luch smestilsya, ya podstroil luch, potom postavil ego gorizontal'no, i luch opyat' smestilsya, ya opyat' podstroil, sut' ne ponyal no effekt zapomnil. Segodnya s utra smotrel televizor, po televizoru bylo chto-to ne interesnoe i ya vspomnil pro tot sluchai, tak kak televizor Tomson 14mg120b, to ego mozhno vrashat' kak ugodno. Tak vot vynul ya skart, ekran stal sinii, postavil kineskopom v verh, v verhnih uglah krasnovatyi muar, kogda povernul kineskopom vniz, v nizhnih uglah krasnovatyi muar, kogda perevernul vverh nogami ves' ekran stal krasnyi, no ne chisto krasnyi, po bokam krasnyi, po centru nemnogo sinevy, esli povernut' na levyi bok, krasneet pravyi verhnii ugol, i i levyi nizhnii a esli povernut' na pravyi bok, krasneet levyi verhnii i pravyi nizhnii ugol, vsya drugaya chast' ekrana sinie. Esli postavit' normal'no - to ekran chisto sinii. Vot sobstvenno i poluchilos' prostoe fundamental'noe otkrytie. Ishodya iz togo chto atomarnoe oblako, sostoyashee prakticheski iz odinochnyh atomov razgonyaetsya uskoryayushim i fokusiruyushim i vysokim i svoditsya v tochku matricy. Perevorachivaya televizor vverh nogami, sinii luch stal krasnym potomu chto potok chastic efira v shtatnom polozhenii zaryazhennye atomy prizhimal vniz, a kogda televizor vverh nogami, eto analogichno tomu chto chasticy efira dvizhutsya snizu vverh po otnosheniyu k potoku zaryazhennyh odinochnyh atomov. Vzyal ya akkuratno po-podbrasyval televizor, chtoby poluchilsya nebol'shoi effekt svobodnogo padeniya. Pri podbrasyvanii cveta ne izmenyalis', v normal'nom polozhenii ostavalsya sinii ekran, vverh nogami krasnym. Iz chego ya ponyal chto tak i dolzhno byt', esli schitat' chto efir dvizhetsya so skorost'yu 10 km v sekundu, sledovatel'no kogda skorosti padeniya lifta ne vysokie, do 2- 5 km v sekundu to naprimer v znamenitoi zadache kak uznat' v zakrytoi kabine padayushego lifta - nahoditsya li ob'ekt na orbite ili dvizhetsya k gravitiruyushemu telu, to vopros reshaetsya esli vzyat' etot televizor vklyuchit' ot akkumulyatora i nablyudat' za ego ekranom, i po izmeneniyu cveta esli vrashat' televizor to mozhno opredelit' gde verh a gde niz pri polnoi nevesomosti v lifte, vot tak vse prosto odnako. V svyazi s vysokim napryazheniem v televizore, i opasnost'yu porazheniya elektricheskim tokom, dannyi opyt provodit' kategoricheski ne rekomenduyu, po skol'ko pri nizkom kachestve televizora vozmozhna ego polomka, v svyazi s neshtatnym raspolozheniem televizora, vozmozhen peregrev detalei, i obryv provodov vnutri televizora, chto mozhet povlech' za soboi porazhenie elektricheskim tokom. |
I teper' vsya fizika bez sredy - vcherashnii den'.
Ya by dazhe skazal fizika bez sredy fizika - ne imeet smysla.
Na zvezdochete menya moderator zabanil za ubezhdeniya.
I estestvenno mne smeshno smotret' na potugi relyativistov na
forume "zvezdocheta" kotorye tam eshe prodolzhayut pytat'sya
opredelit' est' sreda ili ee net i dazhe ne dogadyvayutsya
chto oni zanimayutsya bezsmyslenym i besposhadnym sekasom
a ne fizikoi.
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Pochemu voznikli eti strannye kol'ca v sverhnovoi 1987A?... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Na cifru 8 ne pohozhe.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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http://science.compulenta.ru/552375/\\\Poluchennye dannye svidetel'stvuyut... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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A teper' ya poschitayu... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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A zdes' voobshe po vzroslomu s razmerami zvezdy lopuhnulis',byvaet.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Uvazhaemyi A.P.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Ne v tot forum otpravil... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Spasibo! Takim obrazom mozhno popytat'sya zabrasyvat' svoi risunki i tablicy. - Re[2]: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
(A.P. Vasi,
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Pozhaluista, tol'ko ya tak ponyal... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Vot nashel pro kol'ca. --------------------http://... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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http://earth-chronicles.ru/news/2011-08-17-5582... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Poskol'ku sfericheski-simmetrichnye model'nye raschety kollapsiruyushih... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/11243.htmlChto proishodit so sverhnovoi SN1987A?... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Pohozhaya situaciya.-------------------------http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/opo9607a/ - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Bol'shoi ob'em informacii, lyubezno vylozhennyi... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Ya nebol'shuyu lekciyu nasobiral.--------------------------------------------Zvezdy... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Ciklichnost' galaktik.Chem galaktiki otlichayutsya drug ot druga.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Itak, proanaliziruem nestykovki predlagaemoi modeli s nablyudaemymi faktami.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Strannyi Vy tovarish... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Istina vsegda ryadom. Eto gravitacionnye kol'ca. Robert. - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Spasibo za konstruktivnyi otvet.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Ya Vam pytalsya... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Ob'yasnyaetsya voobshe elementarno kak korotkii... - >> Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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\\\ Ya absolyutno ne pretenduyu na Vash scenarii.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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O efire luchshe posmotret'... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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\\\A manipulyacii s televizorom nikakogo... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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http://www.znaytovar.ru/images/18/1-132.png---------------------------------------------------------Ot sebya dobavlyu... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Ya voobshe Vam udivlen... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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S udovol'stviem prochital Vashu zametku. Do boli znakomye risunki.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Da Vy hotite svoe mnenie... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Kak ya ranee i pisal.... - Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
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Astrofizika napominaet gdeto stado baranov...