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Re: Zagadochnye kol'ca sverhnovoi 1987A
18.03.2012 2:28 | A.P. Vasi
Kak ya ranee i pisal.
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A teper' ya poschitayu na skol'ko poluchaetsya
raznica pri opredelenii razmerov zvezd
metodami gospodstvuyushei paradigmy i zdravym smyslom .
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Udalennost' Solnca ot Zemli, 149,6 mln km
diametr Solnca = 1 391 000 kilometrov.
A teper' posmotrim kak nedalekie astronomy
dazhe obladaya vysokokachestvennoi tehnikoi
delayut vyvody o razmere SN1987a c
bol'shimi peregibami, chuvstvuetsya chto zdravyi
smysl oni polozhili na polku, no zato v teorii
vpisalis'.
http://planetologia.ru/sverhnova/1332--qq-sn-1987a.html
\\\Raspolagayas' na rasstoyanii 168 tys. svetovyh let ot
Zemli v galaktike Bol'shoe Magellanovoe oblako, sverhnovaya
SN 1987A daet uchenym detal'nuyu informaciyu o tom, kak
dozhivayut svoi dni bol'shie zvezdy. Zvezdoi-predshestvennikom
SN 1987A byl goluboi sverhgigant Sanduleak -69 202 s massoi
okolo 17 mass Solnca.\\\
\\\Oni izuchali vzaimodeistvie obrazovavshihsya ot vzryva zvezdy
diametrom okolo 9,6 trillionov kilometrov kolec gaza,
okruzhayushego sverhnovuyu.\\\
Tak vot, ya dumayu chto razmer predshestvuyushei zvezdy byl
dva diametra solnca(17 mass Solnca), posle vzryva forma zvezdy izmenilos',
ona priobrela diskoobraznyi vid, diametr diska s kraev
u kotorogo proishodyat vybrosy - posle vzryva razmer obrazovavshegosya diska
s vybrosami po krayam raven dva s polovinoi diametra solnca.
Diametr diska s vybrosami po fotografii v dva raza men'she
diametra kolec i v traktovke sovremennoi paradigmy,
sledovatel'no diametr zvezdy v forme diska s vybrosami
po krayam ot astronomov v paradigme raven 4.8 trillionov
kilometrov.
Vot chto u menya poduchilos' "diametr Solnca = 1 391 000 kilometrov"
dva s polovinoi diametra solnca i ravno 3.47 mln. km.
A u teh astronomov dazhe ne 4.8 milliardov kilometrov,
- diametr chto v tysyachu raz bylo by bol'she moego analiza,
u nih v million raz
razmer bol'she ne moego rascheta - a v million raz bol'she
zdravogo smysla.
I smeshno smotret' na etu klounadu,
i o kakih melkih voprosah vrasheniya mozhno rassuzhdat'
pri oshibke na rasstoyanii 168 tys.svetovyh let v - million- raz,
to na skol'ko oni mogut oshibat'sya so svoimi zetami
dlya vysosannyh iz pal'ca fotonov na bol'shih rasstoyaniyah.
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S tochki zreniya astrofiziki i kosmologii bol'shoi interes predstavlyaet korotkii elektromagnitnyi impul's, predshestvovavshii osnovnomu prodolzhitel'nomu impul'su, i vpervye nablyudennyi u sverhnovoi SN 1987A.Razdelim 3 chasa (na kotorye "opozdal" opticheskii diapazon), na vremya dvizheniya sveta ot 1987A (55 kpk) poluchim primernoe otlichie ot 1 dlya koef. prelomleniya v vidimom diapazone:
Vzglyanite na ris. 10a (http://ufn.ru/ru/articles/1988/12/a/). Maksimum bleska v polose U (effektivnaya dlina volny 0,36 mkm) nastupil ran'she maksimuma v polose B (0,44 mkm), a poslednii nastupil ran'she lokal'nogo maksimuma v polose V (0,55 mkm). I poskol'ku kosmologicheskim krasnym smesheniem dlya SN 1987A mozhno prenebrech', to eti nablyudeniya mozhno ob'yasnit' dispersiei voln i mnogoluchevym priemom.
n=1+3[chasa]/(55000 [pk]*3.26*365.25*24)=1.0000000019
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Dazhe esli i fizik adekvatnyi on tozhe mozhet ne ponimat'
kak pravil'no nado delat' privyazku v kosmose dlya opredeleniya
rasstoyanii, i strochit formuly ne ponimaya togo chto sozdaet
- golimyi porozhnyak, i ego formula ne imeet nikakogo
otnosheniya k fizicheskoi real'nosti.
I byvaet vazhno dlya fizika mosk vklyuchat' inogda i ponimat'
chto te kto mozhet ponyat' tol'ko relyativizm, kak nechego delat'
mogut oshibat'sya v izmerenii rasstoyanii v million raz.
Vot (55 kpk) nado podelit' na million - vot eto budet
fakticheskoe rasstoyanie.
Po toi prichine chto rasstoyanie opredelyaemoe po krasnomu
smesheniyu - vysoska iz pal'ca, - eto uslovnost'
kotoroi razvodyat lohov. Po prichine togo chto lineikoi
nikto ne prikladyval pri 0.1, 0.5 i drugih Z - eto nado ponimat'.
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