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Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity).

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Avtor Soobshenie
O. A. Bykovskii
Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 9.11.2007 19:18

Bolee chem strannye kamni (Spirit, Opportunity). Vse pred'yavlyaemye fotografii i panoramy tochno sootvetstvuyut originalam NASA (adres stat'i http://tonos.ru/ articles/marslife). Strannost' fotografii zaklyuchaetsya... ...
Naverh
M. S. Afanas'ev
Re[2]: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 24.08.2010 19:35

Pochemu to zhizn' na Marse ishetsya na poverhnosti planety,no eto zhe na Zemle ideal'nye usloviya dlya biologicheskogo na poverhnosti,a na drugih planetah na poverhnosti oni dlya nego neprigodnye.Pochemu zhe ona ne mozhet byt' pod poverhnost'yu,gde mogut byt' vpolne podhodyashie usloviya? Ob etom est' v fantastike.I videt' oni mogut s pomosh'yu radiovoln ili ul'trazvuka
Naverh
Yu. K. Vakulenko
Re[3]: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 25.08.2010 15:21

Bez chego luchshe oboitis',tak eto bez myslennyh svyazei s obitatelyami Marsa i Saturna,dlya zemlyanina oni kak minimum vredny.Eti planety za predelami chelovecheskoi perspektivy.Izvestna sud'ba narodov stroivshih svoyu zhizn' na svyazi s nimi:buino- voinstvennyi dr.Rim i okamenelo-bezdushnaya dr.Iudeya.A vot obshenie s progressivnym Yupiterom,blagorodnym Uranom i vsemi drugimi, myslennaya svyaz' s nimi - more poleznyh vpechatlenii,i eto takzhe podtverzhdaetsya istoriei
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 12.03.2012 8:45

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Obshii vid

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Tak vot esli otkryt' obshii vid, to vidno chto plotnost' kamnei-valunov-bulyzhnikov mezhdu ryadami dyun neodinakova, vverhu plotnost' kamnei namnogo vyshe chem vnizu fotografii, gde po-vidimomu gryady dyun uzhe pobyvali.

Vyvod prostoi, dyuny dvigayas' snizu vverh okuchivayut valuny, i sblizhaya dyunnye gryady lovyat i pererabatyvayut-pogloshayut eti samye na pervyi vzglyad prostye kamni. Eto mozhno prosledit' po sleduyushim priznakam. Shirokie polya mezhdu gryadami dyun prakticheski pustye (perelovili), i naoborot mezhdu sblizivshimisya gryadami plotnost' valunov znachitel'no vyshe (sobrali v kuchu i lovyat). Pri povtornom fotografirovanii peremeshenie dyun i valunov budet prisutstvovat' obyazatel'no.

Esli ne chitali, rekomenduyu chast' 9

Otkrytoe pis'mo kollektivu NASA. Galereya fotografii.

 Analiz nalichiya priznakov zhizni na Marse. Triumf!

http://www.yugzone.ru/articles/mars/

Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 6.04.2012 23:14

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Ris 1. Fragment, "Obshii vid" skopleniya dyun v uproshennom vide.

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Ris 2. Verhnyaya (perednyaya) chast' skopleniya dyun.

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Ris 3. Nizhnyaya chast' skopleniya dyun.

Polnyi vid fotografii privedennyh fragmentov nahoditsya nizhe po ssylke Obshii vid.

Vydelim sleduyushee: sudya po progalinam mezhdu dyunami (sm. fragmenty foto) i schitaya ih obrazovavshimisya posle smesheniya dyun v storonu mozhno schitat' chto pod dyunami kamnei net.

Marsianskie dyuny rassheplyayut, perevarivayut marsianskie kamni. Primerno kak Zemnye korovy travu. No sudya po primenyaemoi hitroi taktike dyun ispol'zovanie ohvatov, okuchivanie mozhno predpolozhit' chto kamni sposobny peremeshat'sya i znachitel'no bystree dyun, esli ne vse to mnogie. Izmenenie cveta poverhnosti i prakticheski polnoe otsutstvie kamnei v nizhnei chasti fotografii opyat' zhe govorit o tom zhe dyuny ispol'zuyut kamni v pishu i tak zhe kak i zemnye formy zhizni posle pererabotki pishi vydelyayut ekskrementy.

I eshe, nalichie kamnei do poslednih nizhnih dyun, svidetel'stvuet o nalichii organizovannogo delezha pishi mezhdu vsemi chlenami sem'i ili stada.

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FOTO NASA JPL Mars, peremeshenie dyun i kamnei 28 dekabrya 2009

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Povtornye fotografii etogo zhe uchastka cherez dva zemnyh goda ili odin marsianskii

12 noyabrya 2011

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4 dekabrya 2011

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Fotografii dlinnyh dyun imeyut povtory, sdelannye rovno cherez odin marsianskii god. Smeshenie dyun sostavlyaet edva nablyudaemuyu velichinu v 1-2 metra, chto zametno tol'ko na fotografiyah samogo vysokogo razresheniya (smeshenie ravno diametru samogo melkogo kamnya).

 

Privedem eshe neskol'ko fotografii skoplenii dlinnyh dyun na kotoryh yavnye priznaki nekogo vzaimodeistviya mezhdu dvumya otdel'nymi skopleniyami.

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Yavnye priznaki "peregovorov" ili dr. "kontakta".

 

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No zdes' my hotim vydelit' kak zemnoe razlichie dyun mezhdu soboi po podobiyu razlichiya: oleni, losi, arhary tak i to chto uslovnyi obed dyunovogo skopleniya (sem'i, stada), po vsei vidimosti, ishodya iz nablyudaemogo razlichiya za dva goda, primerno raven po vremeni 500-1000 let. Chto daet razlichie v skorosti processov zhiznedeyatel'nosti k zemnym zhivotnym v usrednennom vide v million raz. To est' ih kosmonavt v sluchae nalichiya odevaet skafandr, a operator osushestvlyaet prinyatie resheniya ne sekundy kak u nas, a dni-nedeli dlya prinyatiya "mgnovennogo resheniya" ili mesyacy-gody dlya etogo samogo oblacheniya v skafandr.

Obobshaya mnogie fotografii dyunovyh skoplenii i fakt postoyannogo otsutstviya kamnei v progalinah mezhdu plotnymi i bol'shimi formirovaniyami dyun mozhno sdelat' vyvod. Dyuny potreblyayut kamni v pishu i rasstoyanie mezhdu skopleniyami dyun, dolzhno zaviset' ot skorosti rosta kamennyh zaroslei.

Chto iz obshih predstavlenii daet vremya v desyatki i sotni tysyach i dazhe neskol'ko millionov let dlya rosta kamnya do razmerov uslovnye: metry - desyatki metrov v diametre.

Opyat' zhe iz fakta ostatochnogo kolichestva kamnei v meste prohozhdeniya dyunovogo skopleniya, kamni mogut kak to vyzhivat' ili pryatat'sya vozmozhno pod poverhnost'yu ili imeya zashitnyi pancir' pozvolyayushii perezhdat' nashestvie. Opyat' zhe po vsei vidimosti dyuny imeya bolee temnyi cvet i otsyuda povyshennuyu temperaturu, razlagayut kamni kotorye v otlichie ot zemnoi rastitel'nosti soderzhat ne vodu a biologicheski svyazannuyu uglekislotu. Sobstvenno kamennaya dobavka v pishu, po-vidimomu, ne obyazatel'na, ili ne obyazatel'na dlya vseh vidov dyun. Nekotorye dyuny vpolne obhodyatsya kormom v vide uglekislogo gaza iz atmosfery i poverhnostnym sloem grunta. Eti razlichiya i opredelyayut skorost' peremesheniya, razmer, formu, cvet (himicheskii sostav) i dr. osobennosti.

No krome sobstvenno zhivyh dyun i ih skoplenii (sem'ya, stado, staya), opyat' zhe po vsei vidimosti na fotografiyah prisutstvuyut i rukotvornye dyuny (kolony mashin). Mashiny sozdannye dlya konkretnyh celei peremesheniya veshestva v zadannye raiony, po podobiyu teh zhe zemnyh mashin analogichnogo naznacheniya. Foto dyun mnogochislenny i NASA uzhe primerno 5 let issleduet opisannoe zdes'. Po lyuboi privedennoi ssylke vnizu stranicy imeyutsya dopolnitel'nye ssylki prosmotr kotoryh pozvolyaet vzglyanut' na evolyuciyu proishodyashego vo vremeni, po analogii i ryadom.


Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 17.04.2012 21:07

KRIZIS PLANETARNOGO CIKLA UNIVERSAL'NO' ISTORII
A. D. Panov NIIYaF MGU, g. Moskva
http://spkurdyumov.narod.ru/Panov.htm

Material razroznennyi. Glavnyi tezis Panova, predbiologicheskii period na Zemle otsutstvuet (klyushka Panova, zhizn' nachalas' srazu, kak tol'ko slozhilis' sootvetstvuyushie usloviya), tak vot panspermiya ob'yasnyaet otsutstvie predbiologicheskogo cikla tem chto predvaritel'nyi cikl zarozhdeniya zhizni proshel na dr. planetah i na Zemlyu zhizn' byla zanesena uzhe v gotovom vide, v nashem sluchae eto mikroby. V sluchae esli zhizn' vezde odinakovaya "belkovaya" to panspermiya rabotaet. Est' nekotoraya natyanutost', no terpimo. A vot esli zhizn' est' na Lune, Marse, Venere (Ksanfomaliti) i vezde svoya sobstvennaya to otsutstvie predbiologicheskogo perioda, ob'yasnit' panspermiei nel'zya. Ostaetsya akt deistviya razvitoi civilizacii, voznikshei gorazdo ranee. Chto kasaetsya razlichii, to Bog po opredeleniyu tvorit Mir zhelaniem, on nad zakonami prirody i ego deistviya eto kazhdyi raz chudo. Razvitaya civilizaciya kak i zemnaya deistvuet v ramkah zakonov prirody, ispol'zuya znaniya i zatrachivaya energiyu. I kak nashe obshestvo, razvitaya civilizaciya eto obshestvo imeyushee Konstituciya i UK, reguliruyushie ee vnutrennie i vneshnie otnosheniya. Chto ves'ma aktual'no v preddverii priznaniya nalichiya inache zhivogo. Konflikty neizbezhny v sluchae teh zhe podhodov k issledovaniyu, chto i seichas. V dannoe vremya nashi metody issledovaniya kak minimum besceremonny, i dazhe agressivny. Eto ne terpimo na Zemle ne govorya uzhe v Kosmose.
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 1.10.2012 12:21

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NASA JPL Curiosity sol 0053-0054 krater Geila, Mars.

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Pohozhe na voloknistye struktury, marsianskie lishainiki, mhi, litopsy.

Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 2.10.2012 7:40

Foto NASA JPL

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Curiosity sol 0054 -0055

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Foto s orbity.

Verhnyaya fotografiya v polnom vide dostatochno tyazhelaya, no otchetlivo vidny sledy peremesheniya peretaskivaniya v vide borozd i kanavok, prohodyashih sleva napravo. Osobenno zametny borozdy v srednei chasti fotografii, kamni nahodyashiesya v etom meste, po krainei mere mnogie iz nih tak zhe kak by razvernuty i sorientirovany po yavno obrazovannym vmyatinami kolee ili proselochnoi doroge.

Curiosity, po-vidimomu, s momenta posadki interesovalo imenno eto mesto i imenno v vyshe opisannoi versii naezzhennogo trakta. Podozhdem rezul'tatov issledovaniya kamnei lazer + spektrometr, no i to, chto na fotografii vpolne.

 

PS

O retushi, gifov mnogo, detali raznoobraznye i mnogochislennye, ot tysyach peschinok do kusochkov v neskol'ko santimetrov. NASA ved' ne otricaet vseh etih peremeshenii, ni mikro ne kamnei. Bukval'no: "dvizhenie kamnei izvestno davno, neponyatno chto ih peremeshaet" - moi pereskaz teksta iz obsuzhdeniya na NK.

Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 9.10.2012 7:34

NASA JPL sol
3092 Opport'yuniti
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3084 Opport'yuniti
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Opport'yuniti nemnogo proehal k centru kratera i teper' pokazyvaet neponyatnye fotografii, pohozhe na inei pokryvayushii treshiny. Ili vystupayushuyu iz treshin sol' - konechno nechto inoe. No process imeyushii mesto, a ne zritel'naya illyuziya.
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 23.10.2012 7:43

Izmenenie poverhnosti gify
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Foto NASA JPL Opport'yuniti izmenenie sleda v techenie vos'mi let proishodilo postoyanno. Obratim vnimanie, na fotografii prisutstvuet yavnaya anomaliya komok peska vyshe razvoroshennogo mesta ne izmenilsya. Togda kak v sluchae vetrovoi versii etot komok naibolee podverzhen erozii.
Dlya prosmotra izmenenii neobhodimo otkryt' gif.
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Takzhe paradoksal'no to, chto sled zarastaet ravnomerno, togda, kak cherez kazhdyi metr sled ne pridavlen i dolzhen byt' vynesen po vetru. No sled vyravnivaetsya, tak kak esli by byl ukatan absolyutno rovno. Soglasimsya v sluchae analogii zemnogo peska lezhashego poverh tverdoi poverhnosti veter nepremenno ogolil nekotorye mesta.

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Curiosity sol 0074
Vosem' let postoyannogo zarastaniya sleda rovera ostavlennogo na tysyachah dyun, dokazyvaet effekt opredelenno imeet mesto.
No razglazhivanie peska otsutstvuet v sluchae pereneseniya peska na nekotoroe rasstoyanie.
Pri etih usloviyah - perepad temperatury i solnechnyi veter, sohranyayutsya v tom zhe vide. Sledovatel'no, otsutstvie razglazhivaniya vynesennogo peska dokazyvaet ne prichastnost': vetra, perepada temperatur, solnechnogo vetra kak postoyannogo i neizmenno deistvuyushego faktora.
Neobhodimo naiti otvet na drugoi vopros.
- Pochemu ne razglazhivaetsya pesok, otdelennyi ot mesta nahozhdeniya na nekotoroe rasstoyanie. Primerno na 10 - 15 sm i dalee.
http://forum.web.ru/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2579&start=360
Podrobnoe obsuzhdenie temy zarastaniya sleda.
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 23.10.2012 23:26

 

Foto NASA JPL krater Indevor Opport'yuniti

 

Pro Marsian, est' v ih seleniyah... i lyudi!

 

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http://www.marstravel.org/2011_08_01_archive.html

Angloyazychnyi marsianskii sait, krater Indevor.

Stely, pamyatniki, obeliski s nadpisyami i risunkami, komu za chto i kogda.

Marsianskoe kladbishe nahoditsya v kratere Indevor na holme 'ork. Vse sooruzhenie, skoree vsego memorial'nyi kompleks plyus sistema utilizacii i zahoronenii.

Panorama kratera Indevor 3 oktyabrya 2012, posle togo kak Opport'yuniti spustilsya vniz na pod'ezde k poselku.

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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20121003a.html

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/

Poselok vblizi, novaya obrabotka cveta foto den' 3107

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Pri uvelichenii fotografii vidno chto eto obrazovanie pohozhe na poluprozrachnyi shater s vnutrennim prostranstvom. Vhod pered nami pravee. Absolyutno orientirovochno detskii sad marsianskih kamnei libo letnii pavil'on dlya otdyha.

 

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Vozmozhno, vhod v zimnie pomeshenie - libo nekoe sooruzhenie proizvodstvennogo ili bytovogo naznacheniya, nu skazhem prachechnaya ili ubornaya.

 

Vid s orbity.

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vse fotografii Indevor

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/results.php?keyword=Endeavour+

Na etoi malen'koi fotografii poselok sprava. Kladbishe i memorial'nyi kompleks sleva.

Arhiv NASA

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity.html

Arhiv Flaiker

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/

 

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