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Re: "Razbegayutsya" li galaktiki?
Otvet #6130 - Vchera :: 23:24:35
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Vot prochital i podumal a kak by ya obosnovyval,
i chto dlya etogo nado.
Beglo podumal i ponyal chto ne hvataet uverennosti
v tom chto pri gorizontal'nom dvizhenii v atmosfere,
v to vremya kogda efir dvizhetsya vertikal'no opredelit'
skorost' efira prosto neobhodimo.
Dlya etogo
nado izmeryat' otklonenie ot vertikali
v zavisimosti ot vysoty i skorosti, ili naprimer strogo
na odnoi vysote.
Znaya to chto ne podverzhen vliyaniyu giroskop,
koordinaty mozhno prinimat' po ZhPS, a proveryat'
po otkloneniyu urovnya ot vertikali, dlya ustoichivogo
rezul'tata ponadobitsya tri samoleta, vse tri samoleta
dolzhny letet' na odinakovoi vysote, i na etoi vysote samolety
dolzhny izmenit' skorost' do maksimuma.
Shema opyta sleduyushaya, est' kub s vnutrennim zerkalom
pod uglom
v 45 gradusov, ot nego luch otrazhaetsya ot vperedi letyashih
dvuh samoletov kotorye letyat na rasstoyanii 1km i 2 km, otrazhaetsya strogo
vniz kub podveshen
na poperechnoi niti i mozhet svobodno kachat'sya.
Gorizontal'nost' samoleta i vertikal'nost' tochki ot kuba proveryaetsya
na zemle, posle etogo na nizkih skorostyah kalibruetsya
po vperedi letyashim
samoletam, posle etogo samolety nabirayut maksimal'nuyu skorost' na etoi vysote,
i provoditsya izmerenie otkloneniya kuba nazad s uvelicheniem skorosti.
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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21.02.2012 1:52 |
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V predydushem estestvenno osnovnym etalonom po vertikali
ispol'zuetsya lazernyi uroven' dlya stroitelei, a otklonenie
ot vertikali sravnivaetsya s giroskopom (samolet
v napravlenii
kogda na osi net otkloneniya vpered nazad), i luchami ot samoletov.
Estestvenno stroitel'nyi uroven' i kub budut otklonyatsya odinakovo,
vopros
v tom na skol'ko eta velichina ne budet sovpadat' s giroskopom
i s luchami ot vperedi letyashih samoletov pri raznyh skorostyah, i na raznyh vysotah.
I chtoby uznat'
skorost' vertikal'no dvizhushegosya efira,
dostatochno 45 gradusov podelit' na ugol, a potom eto chislo umnozhit'
na skorost' samoleta, i poluchitsya skorost' vertikal'no
dvizhushegosya efira.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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21.02.2012 1:57 |
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Nebol'shaya popravka, posle chego poluchennuyu skorost'
efira nado privesti k materii, dlya etogo nado podelit'
na udel'nuyu plotnost' ustroistva.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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21.02.2012 2:42 |
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Kstati kto ne ponyal, to v predydushih opytah
ispol'zuetsya bazovoe svoistvo inercii kogda
naprimer legkovoe avto ezdit po krugu, pri etom
skladyvaetsya vertikal'naya
sostavlyayushaya massy
efira dvizhushayasya skvoz' probnoe telo vniz,
v sravnenii s massoi tela na kotoruyu vozdeistvuet
uglovaya skorost'. V predydushih opytah
analogichnyi avtomobilyu sluchai tol'ko pri
pryamolineinom dvizhenii.
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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26.02.2012 22:24 |
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Odin kriticheskii tekst nado pomenyat',
vot podumal i reshil rasskazat' po drugomu,
v principe eto bol'she otnositsya k vysokim
opticheskim tehnologiyam, i vozmozhno
sdelayut
teleskop novogo pokoleniya.
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"""Teper' nado ponyat' chto predstavlyaet iz sebya interferenciya.
Zdes' vse prosto. Svetovoi luch razdelyaetsya na dva lucha,
polu prozrachnym steklom,
vnutri kotorogo sloi metalla,
kotoryi propuskaet chast' luchei a druguyu chast' otrazhaet,
po prichine togo chto zaryady fotonov pri vzaimodeistvii vrashayas'
letyat,
i tak kak vrashenie ih haotichnoe, to podletayut k sloyu
po raznomu, chast' udaryaetsya odnovremenno plashmya, i otrazhaetsya,
a chast' prohodit mezhdu atomami metalla."""
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Interferenciya - prosto slozhenie kolebanii
voln v prostranstve. Chto proishodit pri razdelenii
lucha kogda mezhdu dvuh stekol sloi
metalla,
cherez etot sloi prohodit chast' sveta, a drugaya chast'
otrazhaetsya.
Prichina v tom chto proishodit izmenenie plotnosti efira,
v svoyu ochered' atomarnaya
struktura sozdaet v metalle
uprugost' i skvoz' etot sloi prodavlivaetsya chast' kolebanii,
a drugaya chast' otrazhaetsya.
Zdes' estestvenno predpolozhit' chto mozhno
menyat' prozrachnost',
dostatochno sdelat' ne sloi, a tranzistor, to-est' napylit' tri
sloya i upravlyaya provodimost'yu sloya mozhno budet regulirovat'
uroven' otrazheniya,
v ideale dobit'sya togo chtoby otrazhalis'
tol'ko maksimumy efirnogo davleniya a razryazhenie ne propuskalos',
togda sobstvenno poluchitsya bez inercionnyi efirnyi tolkatel'.
To-est' za schet napryazheniya sozdaetsya diod dlya kolebanii efira v materiale,
dlya polucheniya sily nado podat' napryazhenie,
chtoby vnutri stekla aktivizirovat' diod,
i potom
posvetit' svetom na steklo.
Nu eto kak mechta, bolee real'no pri izmenenii napryazheniya
menyat' uroven' otrazheniya efira, - hotya pohozhaya tehnologiya
est', eto kogda menyayut prozrachnost' stekla.
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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27.02.2012 17:43 |
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Vot eshe poproboval, otpravil kartinku bez teksta
ne proshla.
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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6.03.2012 2:37 |
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Dostatochno trudnaya zvezda okazalas' na samom dele.
U menya poluchaetsya neskol'ko reshenii
1 Poyavilas' "reaktivnaya zvezda fiziki" - zvezda
s odnim
vybrosom, posle chego proizoshlo smeshenie
i progorela protivopolozhnaya storona -
dlya etogo nado znat' ne dvigaetsya li zvezda.
2 Proizoshel vybros - s odnoi storony
bol'she s drugoi
men'she - iz za smesheniya zvezdy efira vnutri zvezdy.
3 Ryadom est' zvezda efira kotoraya duet kak vetrom, -
somneniya v tom chto veter sovpal s
os'yu vybrosa.
Bolee veroyatnyi vtoroi sluchai.
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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6.03.2012 2:40 |
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Ciklichnost' galaktik.
Chem galaktiki otlichayutsya drug ot druga.
Kak proishodit-
formirovanie
vstrecha s drugimi
galaktikami
nabor
kriticheskoi massy
samo-nagrev
razbros
formirovanie
i t.d.
Esli posmotret' na fotografii - to oni sobstvenno
osobo drug ot druga ne ochen'
otlichayutsya,
no na samom dele otlichii dostatochno chtoby
zametit' ciklichnost' v zhizni galaktik.
Chto opredelyaet dvizhenie v galaktike, dvizhenie v
galaktike
opredelyaet srednyaya temperatura prostranstva
v galaktike, i nekotorye nyuansy po plotnosti materii
v galaktike.
Efir kak vozduh v turbine pylesosa nahodyas'
v galaktike
s raznoi plotnost'yu pri vozdeistvii na nego
centrobezhnogo vozdeistviya priobretaet raznuyu plotnost'.
V centre galaktiki ego plotnost' men'she, a
po krayam bol'she.
No est' odno bol'shoe no - chto sobstvenno proishodit v zhizni
galaktiki - ona mozhet byt' v shesti temperaturnyh sostoyaniyah,
1 ustoichivo
holodnaya,
2 nagrevayushayasya,
3 sbalansirovannaya,
4 peregrevayushayasya,
5 ustoichivo goryachaya
6 ostyvayushaya
Vot na odinakovom rasstoyanii naprimer
nablyudaem
raznye galaktiki po svoei forme.
Na samom dele otpravnoi tochkoi v galaktike
yavlyaetsya
1 plotnost' efira,
2 kolichestvo materii,
i
3 kolichestvo energii v etoi galaktike.
Vot voz'mem naprimer est' galaktika, mimo
nee proletaet drugaya galaktika,
u nih proishodit snizhenie plotnosti
efira mezhdu centrami galaktik,
i mezhdu vysokimi i nizkimi
plotnostyami efira v rukavah, esli takie est'.
Estestvenno proletaya skvoz' drug druga
v galaktikah dazhe ne bylo sluchaya chtoby
dve zvezdy stolknulis' mezhdu soboi,
no eto ne znachit chto ne proishodit
sliyaniya zvezdnyh mass galaktik.
Oni
slivayutsya specificheskim vzaimodeistviem.
Po prichine togo chto plotnost' zvezdy efira,
vnutri zvezd sbalansirovana s vneshnei plotnost'yu
efira v prostranstve,
to pri priblizhenii
centrov galaktik, ili drugih chastei galaktik
s nizkimi plotnostyami efira,
proishodit lopan'e vneshnih obolochek zvezd,
pri lopan'i
obolochek proishodit sbros
materii ot desyati do pyatidesyati procentov,
massy zvezdy.
Posle sbrosa, proishodit bol'shoi
vybros efira iz zvezd, na rukavah
i
v galaktikah etot process viden v vide
rozovyh lopayushihsya zvezdnyh bul'bashek.
Pri bol'shom skoplenii sosednih zvezd,
poluchaetsya udarnaya volna
kotoraya na krayah
processa budet sbivat' davleniem
vneshnyuyu obolochku so zvezd, chto budet
privodit' v vzryvam v stile "Obval karkasa - super nova",
po prichine togo chto kogda vneshnyuyu
obolochku sduet, a zvezda efira ostanetsya na meste,
obolochka potom padaet vo vnutr',
i padenie proishodit s takoi siloi
chto
zarozhdaetsya zvezda efira i srazu efir vosstanavlivaetsya
po prichine bol'shogo kolichestva energii,
v svyazi s chem proishodit bol'shoi vzryv
analogichnyi
Krabovidnoi tumannosti, posle
vzryva v centre ostalas' tol'ko isparyayushayasya
zvezda efira, vosstanovlenie kotoroi postoyanno
podderzhivaet usloviya dlya razleta
materii
ot zvezdy s kotoroi byla rezko zduta obolochka.
Do teh por poka ves' efir ne vosstanovitsya i zvezda
efira ne ischeznet, budet prodolzhat'sya razbros
materii, posle chego materiya ostanovitsya, tak kak
materiyu na stol'ko daleko razbrosalo,
to eta materiya nikogda v zvezdu ne soberetsya, ona
budet uvlechena
drugimi zvezdami.
Tak vot chto sobstvenno imeem, po razmeru zvezdy
mezhdu soboi ne sil'no otlichayutsya,
s moei tochki zreniya ne bolee chem plyus minus
v desyat' raz po sravneniyu s Solncem.
Zvezdy odinakovogo razmera pri nizkom
davlenii efira zvezdy svetyat slabo, pri bol'shom
svetyat sil'no. Pri narushenii
balansa,
zvezda lopaetsya pri snizhenii,
uvelichivaet yarkost' pri plavnom uvelichenii
plotnosti, i teryaet vneshnyuyu obolochku pri
vneshnei udarnoi volne.
A kak eto vliyaet na formu samoi galaktiki?, -
Mozhno vernutsya v nachalo i posmotret' chto u galaktik
v ciklichnosti mozhno vydelit' - molodost',
molodost'
mozhno opredelit' kak ustoichivo
holodnoe sostoyanie, v etom sostoyanii ravnomernoe
raspredelenie zvezd.
Galaktiki razmytye.
Vstrecha s drugimi galaktikami
ili samouplotnenie
galaktiki, pri etom proishodit plavnoe uvelichenie
srednei temperatury vnutri galaktiki, s estestvennym
umen'sheniem kolichestva efira v
galaktike.
Galaktiki s sinimi rukavami.
Tak kak process vzaimnogo sblizheniya zvezd v galaktike
uvelichivaetsya, poyavlyaetsya sleduyushee sostoyanie galaktiki
- sbalansirovannaya, ili galaktika nabravshaya
kriticheskuyu massu - na fotografiyah u
etih galaktik sootnoshenie sinih zvezd i
rozovyh lopayushihsya v rukavah
- primerno
odinakovoe.
Sleduyushaya situaciya kogda galaktika v sostoyanii
samo-nagreva, i yavlyaetsya peregrevayusheisya, po prichine togo
chto posle vybrosa
efira iz zvezd i sbrosa zvezdami
bol'shogo kolichestva massy, eta massa v kosmose
nachinaet nagrevat'sya, ne davaya uiti
izlucheniyu zvezd iz galaktiki,
chto
privodit k rezkomu povysheniyu davleniya
efira vnutri vsei galaktiki.
Vneshne eto zheltovatogo cveta galaktiki,
ili galaktiki okruzhennye kol'com
gryaznyh
vybrosov meshayushih ih
nablyudat'.
Galaktika perehodit v sleduyushee sostoyanie -
ustoichivo goryachaya, i v rezul'tate bol'shogo
davleniya efira proishodit
razbros
vsego sto est' vnutri galaktiki, efira,
materii zvezd, i uskorennoe vosstanovlenie
efira so zvezd efira delaet etot
process grandioznym po
masshtabu, chto
mozhet tak razbrosat' zvezdy daleko,
chto oni uzhe v etoi galaktike ne soberutsya,
a prisoedinyatsya k drugoi.
Estestvenno posle razbrosa
zvezd
na bol'shoe rasstoyanie proishodit ih ostyvanie,
i zvezdy perehodyat v dostatochno ustoichivoe
holodnoe sostoyanie, posle chego,
razletevshayasya materiya
obratno padaet
na zvezdy i oni nabirayut moshnosti svecheniya,
i sblizhayutsya drug s drugom, i tak
process prodolzhaetsya.
Ya special'no ne ukazyval na
zvezdnye
fotografii - po toi prichine chtoby
kazhdyi zhelayushii imel vozmozhnost'
vybrat' to chto emu nravitsya dlya kazhdogo
sluchaya.
http://www.astronet.ru/db/msg/1254896
Centr galaktiki Centavr A
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http://www.astronet.ru/db/msg/1255454
Velichestvennaya spiral'naya galaktika NGC 1232
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http://www.astronet.ru/db/msg/1255185
NGC 253: galaktika Skul'ptor
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http://www.astronet.ru/db/msg/1255500
Licom k NGC 6946
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http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic0615a/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic0905a/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic0910i/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/opo0501a/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic0506a/
Eshe odna fotografiya, tol'ko u menya somneniya
chto eto galaktika, skorei vsego zvezda tipa SS 433
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1992/27/image/b/format/large_web/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1104a/
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/archive/category/galax/
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| A rose made of galaxies |
Stellar Nursery in the arms of NGC 1672 |
Colliding galaxies make love, not war |
Magnetic monster NGC 1275 |
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| Flocculent spiral NGC 2841 |
ACS Image of NGC 5866 |
Hubble Mosaic of the Majestic Sombrero Galaxy |
The magnificent starburst galaxy Messier 82 |
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| A Poster-Size Image of the Beautiful Barred Spiral Galaxy NGC 1300 |
Galactic wreckage in Stephan's Quintet |
Barred Spiral Galaxy NGC 6217 |
Dramatically backlit dust lanes in NGC 7049 |
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| Holiday Wishes from the Hubble Space Telescope |
Largest ever galaxy portrait - stunning HD image of Pinwheel Galaxy |
Out of this whirl: The Whirlpool Galaxy (M51) and companion galaxy |
A 'wallpaper' of distant galaxies is a stunning backdrop for a runaway galaxy |
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| Hubble's newest camera takes a deep look at two merging galaxies |
Edge-On View of NGC 4013 |
A Grazing Encounter Between two Spiral Galaxies |
Galaxy Playing Twister |
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| Hubble views NGC 4522 |
Hubble snaps heavyweight of the Leo Triplet |
Spiral Key to Universe's Expansion |
Stellar fireworks are ablaze in galaxy NGC 4449 |
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| Hubble Identifies Source of Ultraviolet Light in an Old Nebula |
Hubble views NGC 4402 |
The gargantuan galaxy NGC 1132 |
Spectacular Hubble view of Centaurus A |
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| Doing Cartwheels to Celebrate the End of an Era |
Unusual Spiral NGC 4921 in the Coma Galaxy Cluster |
Sunny Side Up |
Barred Spiral Bares All |
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| Smoke Without Fire: a Different View of the Cigar Galaxy |
A star formation laboratory |
The Belly of the Cosmic Whale |
Perfect Spiral Overlaid with Milky Way Gems |
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| Hubble image of NGC 1073 |
Hubble Captures a Lucky Galaxy Alignment |
Star cluster surrounds wayward black hole in cannibal galaxy ESO 243-49 (unlabelled) |
The Calm after the Galactic Storm |
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| Stars in the Andromeda Galaxys disc |
Star cluster surrounds wayward black hole in cannibal galaxy ESO 243-49 (labelled) |
Antlia Dwarf Galaxy Peppers the Sky with Stars |
HST PHAT detail of M31 |
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| Centre of M31 |
Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda Galaxy |
Hubble observes blue stars in Andromeda's core |
HST PHAT wide image of M31 |
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| Ground-based image of Andromeda Galaxy, M31 |
Ground-based image of Andromeda Galaxy, M31 |
Faint Galaxy with Popping Pink Features |
A Snapshot of Galactic Evolution |
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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6.03.2012 3:00 |
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Vnimatel'no rassmatrival galaktiki i zametil dopolnitel'nye
otlichitel'nye osobennosti.
1 Rassloenie galaktiki.
U galaktik nablyudaetsya rassloenie
vnutri
galaktiki, v svyazi s chem proishodit neravnomernoe
uplotnenie zvezd, i sozdaetsya situaciya kogda v centre
galaktiki proishodit povyshenie temperatury
v
svyazi s chem sozdaetsya razryazhenie efira
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v svyazi
s bol'shimi rasstoyaniyami efir ne mozhet byt'
popolnen s okrain galaktiki, zvezdy nachinayut
v centre bystree sblizhat'sya
i styagivat'sya v centr galaktiki, posle chego nizkaya
plotnost' efira privodit
k tomu chto zvezdy nachinayut
teryat' balans i uzhe ne mogut vsasyvat' efir,
chto privodit
k lopan'yu zvezd s posleduyushim vybrosom efira.
Posle togo kak povyshaetsya davlenie efira v centre galaktiki,
povyshaetsya davlenie efira, poluchaetsya situaciya v kotoroi
staraya ploskost' galaktiki s vysokoi plotnost'yu
efira sozdaet uprugost' gorazdo bol'shuyu po otnosheniyu
k osyam, v svyazi s chem vse zvezdy povorachivayutsya po osi,
i poluchaetsya vot takaya situaciya.
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| Hubble image of NGC 1073 |
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| A Poster-Size Image of the Beautiful Barred Spiral Galaxy NGC 1300 |
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Prodolzhenie.
2 Gryazevoe kol'co.
a) Galaktika men'she gryazevogo kol'ca.
b) Galaktika bol'e gryazevogo kol'ca.
v) Razmytie gryazevogo kol'ca.
Kogda galaktika prohodit kriticheskuyu massu u ee
zvezd nachinaetsya lopan'e zvezd s obrazovaniem
vokrug galaktiki gryazevoi peleny,
posle
chego
eta pelena koncentriruetsya v gryazevoe kol'co.
Kogda vidimyi razmer galaktiki men'she gryazevogo
kol'ca - govorit o tom chto galaktika vstupila
v svoyu samuyu
dinamichnuyu
fazu, i u nee nachinayut izmenyatsya vse
zvezdy vnutri kol'ca.
Povyshaetsya temperatura
v svyazi s chem snizhaetsya plotnost'
efira, v svyazi s bol'shimi rasstoyaniyami efir s periferii
ne mozhet popolnitsya, zvezdy nachinayut bystro
samo-sblizhat'sya, chto
privodit k eshe bol'shemu snizheniyu
plotnosti efira i uvelicheniyu temperatury,
chto privodit k potere balansa dlya formirovaniya
"zvezdy efira" vnutri
zvezd, i v svyazi s chem prakticheski
vse zvezdy odnovremenno nachinayut vydelyat' efir.
Kogda
zvezdy vnutri gryazevogo kol'ca - to proishodit ili process
bystrogo samo-sblizheniya zvezd po prichine togo chto efir s periferii
ne mozhet popolnit' snizhenie plotnosti
tak kak efir tozhe
obladaet vyazkost'yu i massoi, i na takih bol'shih
rasstoyaniyah popolnenie efira iz vne gorazdo men'she
chem nuzhno dlya zvezd, i oni samo-sblizhayutsya,
tem samym eshe bol'she
snizhaetsya plotnost' efira i povyshaetsya temperatura, posle
chego "zvezdy efira" teryayut balans vo vtoroi raz, v pervyi raz
oni
poteryali balans pri formirovanii gryazevoi peleny,
kotoraya prevratilas' v gryazevoe kol'co. Teryaya balans po vsasyvaniyu
efira, zvezda efira nachinaet vosstanavlivat'
efir i sbrasyvat' ego
v prostranstvo, chto proishodit prakticheski odnovremenno so vsemi
zvezdami, i galaktika nachinaet razletat'sya.
Poluchaetsya chto kogda galaktika
men'she gryazevogo kol'ca,
to v nei zvezdy samo-sblizhayutsya, ili rastalkivayutsya efirom.
Kogda zvezdy prakticheski odnovremenno teryayut balans i vybrasyvayut
efir v prostranstvo sozdaetsya izbytochnoe davlenie efira,
i zvezdy bystro razletayutsya
vo vse storony,
sperva zaletayut za gryazevoe kol'co, a potom
i polnost'yu gryazevoe
kol'co pogloshayut
kak budto ego i ne bylo.
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