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19.06.2013 7:55 | A.P. Vasi
Sobstvenno obosnovat' nepravil'nost' bol'shogo
vzryva proshe prostogo - nekotoroe veshestvo, kotorogo
mnogo est' v prostranstve i kotoroe
pere izluchaet na drugoi chastote
kotoroe bylo obnaruzheno v 1941 godu, bylo
pere otkryto v 1946 godu uzhe kak eho bol'shogo vzryva.
Tak i ohota skazat' yasnyi kon' - esli nechto postoyanno
izluchaet nekotoroe veshestvo po prichine vozdeistviya na
nego drugih lokal'nyh energii kotorye ego vozbuzhdayut
po mestu nahozhdeniya, to pri chem zdes' eho global'nogo
processa. Pipec primitiva - odnim slovom.
No delo ne v prostote i logichnosti argumentacii, zdes' delo
kak raz v ne vospriyatii drugoi tochki.
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Dmitrii Samin
Tainy vselennoi
Koncepciya Bol'shogo Vzryva
Vozmozhnost' rasshireniya Vselennoi byla predskazana teoreticheski kak odno iz sledstvii primeneniya k resheniyu kosmologicheskih problem obshei teorii otnositel'nosti. Pervye trudy v etoi oblasti prinadlezhat talantlivomu sovetskomu matematiku Aleksandru Aleksandrovichu Fridmanu (1888 1925). On shiroko izvesten kak geofizik-meteorolog, specialist po prikladnym voprosam dinamiki atmosfery. No mnogo vremeni Fridman otdal matematicheskomu analizu reshenii kosmologicheskih uravnenii Einshteina. Nezadolgo do smerti Fridman poluchil seriyu reshenii uravnenii Einshteina.
Vyhodilo, chto rasshirenie mozhet yavit'sya odnim iz osnovnyh obshih svoistv Vselennoi vazhneishim atributom ee evolyucii. Raboty russkogo uchenogo ponachalu ne privlekli k sebe dolzhnogo vnimaniya. Oni byli oceneny po dostoinstvu lish' v svyazi s otkrytiem E. Habblom krasnogo smesheniya i razvitiem sovremennyh predstavlenii o pervonachal'no goryachei Vselennoi i Bol'shom Vzryve.
V 1927 godu Zh. Lemetr, student iz Eddingtona, nezavisimo ot Fridmana vydvinul svoyu ideyu vozniknoveniya Vselennoi i ee dal'neishego rasshireniya iz tochki. Ei dali na nekotoroe vremya nazvanie atoma-otca. Sam Lemetr kategoricheski byl protiv podobnogo obraza i voobshe teologicheskoi traktovki svoei teorii. Process vozniknoveniya Vselennoi Lemetr predstavil v forme Bol'shogo Vzryva. Molodoi uchenyi pervym popytalsya naiti i veroyatnye sledy nachal'nogo Vzryva. Lemetr dopuskal, chto takim otgoloskom mogli byt' kosmicheskie luchi. Ego gipotezu astronomy zametili lish' posle vystupleniya v 1933 godu, kogda Lemetr vydvinul novyi variant koncepcii rasshireniya Vselennoi iz plotnogo sgustka materii konechnyh, no ochen' malyh razmerov.
Zadacha formirovaniya bolee konkretnoi, fizicheski razrabotannoi evolyucionnoi kosmologo-kosmogonicheskoi modeli rasshiryayusheisya Vselennoi byla reshena v osnovnom amerikanskim fizikom Gamovym, russkim po proishozhdeniyu. Dzhordzh (Georgii Antonovich) Gamov (1904 1968) vpervye predlozhil v 1946 godu teoriyu, poluchivshuyu zatem naimenovanie teorii Bol'shogo Vzryva (a tochnee Bol'shogo Udara). Soglasno ei, vsya sovremennaya nablyudaemaya Vselennaya predstavlyaet soboi rezul'tat katastroficheski bystrogo razleta materii, nahodivsheisya do togo v sverhplotnom sostoyanii, nedostupnom dlya opisaniya v ramkah sovremennoi fiziki.
Udalenie galaktik podchinyaetsya neobychnym matematicheskim zakonomernostyam. Ono proishodit s razlichnymi skorostyami. Chem bol'she rasstoyanie mezhdu galaktikami, tem vyshe okazyvaetsya skorost' ih vzaimnogo udaleniya.
My v silah postroit' model' opisannogo vyshe razbeganiya galaktik, pishet A.A. Gurnshtein, esli ne budem rassmatrivat' real'noe beskonechnoe prostranstvo treh izmerenii, a ogranichimsya v svoei modeli lish' poverhnost'yu prostranstvom dvuh izmerenii. Predstavim sebe, chto vsya Vselennaya raspolozhena na nekotoroi zamknutoi poverhnosti, kotoraya podobna poverhnosti postoyanno razduvaemogo rezinovogo shara. Pust' galaktiki v nashei modeli izobrazhayutsya tochkami, nanesennymi na poverhnosti etogo shara. Po mere ego razduvaniya vse rasstoyaniya mezhdu galaktikami, izmerennye po poverhnosti shara, deistvitel'no budut sistematicheski uvelichivat'sya, prichem skorost' razbeganiya galaktik okazhetsya tem bol'she, chem bol'she bylo pervonachal'noe rasstoyanie mezhdu nimi.
Kak schital Gamov, nachavsheesya pri etom rasshirenie materii v forme nerazdelimoi vnachale vysokotemperaturnoi smesi izlucheniya i veshestva (elementarnyh chastic) nablyudaetsya i v nashi dni v vide effekta krasnogo smesheniya.
Gamov vmeste so svoimi sotrudnikami R. Al'ferom i R. Germanom v 1948 godu predskazal, chto dolzhno nablyudat'sya i ostyvshee pervichnoe izotropnoe elektromagnitnoe izluchenie teplovoe s temperaturoi okolo 5 K.
Odnako razvitiyu teorii v znachitel'noi stepeni prepyatstvovalo obshee skepticheskoe otnoshenie astrofizikov teh let k vozmozhnosti resheniya stol' fantasticheskoi zadachi ponyat' nachalo istorii vsei Vselennoi v celom, pishut v svoei knige Istoriya astronomii A.I. Eremeeva i F.A. Cicin. S drugoi storony, ulovit' v mirovom prostranstve s pomosh'yu imevsheisya apparatury teplovoe radioizluchenie stol' nizkoi temperatury specialisty-radiofiziki schitali sovershenno nevozmozhnym uzhe iz-za togo, chto podobnyi signal byl by zaglushen radioizlucheniem zvezd, galaktik, mezhzvezdnoi sredy, koroche, kosmicheskim radioshumom.
Pochti dva desyatiletiya koncepciya Bol'shogo Vzryva dlya bol'shinstva astronomov ostavalas' igroi uma nemnogih fizikov i kosmologov I tol'ko pozdnee stalo yasno, chto bolee rannemu resheniyu problemy v nemaloi stepeni pomeshal tot razryv v nauchnyh kontaktah, kotoryi vse eshe sushestvuet mezhdu sovremennymi teoretikami i nablyudatelyami. Sygrala sushestvennuyu negativnuyu rol' i differencirovannost' nauki, iz-za kotoroi specialisty, dazhe rabotayushie v blizkih oblastyah, poroi malo znayut o problemah svoih sosedei.
Sledstviem koncepcii pervonachal'no goryachei Vselennoi yavilsya vyvod, chto v nasledstvo ot etoi epohi, esli tol'ko ona deistvitel'no imela mesto, dolzhno povsemestno sohranit'sya vo Vselennoi ostatochnoe, ili, kak ego nazyvayut, reliktovoe, izluchenie v radiodiapazone.
Kanadskii
astrofizik E. Mak-Kellar v 1941 godu stolknulsya s neobychnym yavleniem
vozbuzhdennym sostoyaniem
molekul mezhzvezdnogo ciana. Temperatura vozbuzhdeniya
sostavlyala
2,3 K. Podobnyi fakt mog stat' osnovaniem dlya
vyvoda o nalichii v mirovom prostranstve sootvetstvuyushego izlucheniya-vozbuditelya.
Odnako, pohozhe, avtory teorii Bol'shogo Vzryva nichego ne znali ob etom otkrytii. Lish' mnogo pozdnee to, chto takoe sostoyanie molekul ciana vyzvano imenno reliktovym izlucheniem, dokazali sovetskii astrofizik I.S. Shklovskii i nezavisimo ryad drugih avtorov.
Raschety A.G. Doroshkevicha i I.D. Novikova v 1964 godu pokazali, chto reliktovoe izluchenie v principe registriruemo, i, sledovatel'no, vyvod teorii Bol'shogo Vzryva vozmozhno proverit' s pomosh'yu nablyudenii. Gorazdo pozdnee zadnim chislom vyyasnilos', chto ko vremeni ukazannogo rascheta reliktovoe izluchenie uzhe bylo otkryto v SSSR i v Yaponii. V SSSR eto otkrytie bylo opublikovano aspirantom Pulkovskoi observatorii T.A. Shmaonovym v 1957 godu.
No beda zaklyuchalas' v tom, pishet Gurnshtein, chto nablyudateli i teoretiki rabotali v otryve drug ot druga. Mezhdu nimi ne bylo obmena informaciei. Nablyudatel' ne znal, kak pravil'no istolkovat' svoi strannye rezul'taty. Zamechatel'naya zhe stat'ya teoretikov ostalas' nezamechennoi.
K seredine shestidesyatyh godov radioastronomy-eksperimentatory voznamerilis' postroit' special'nuyu apparaturu dlya obnaruzheniya reliktovogo izlucheniya No ih operedili inzhenery, vypolnyavshie issledovaniya po bor'be s radioshumami pri svyazi s iskusstvennymi sputnikami Zemli.
V 1965 godu radioinzhenery A. Penzias i R. Vil'son (SShA) pri ispytanii rupornoi antenny dlya nablyudeniya amerikanskogo sputnika Eho sluchaino otkryli sushestvovanie mikrovolnovogo (na volne 7,35 santimetra) kosmicheskogo radioshuma, ne zavisyashego ot napravleniya antenny.
Na protyazhenii 19661967 godov eto otkrytie otkrytie reliktovogo radioizlucheniya Vselennoi bylo nezavisimo drug ot druga podtverzhdeno ryadom issledovatelei v raznyh stranah. Osobennosti etogo yavleniya, sootvetstvuyushego obshemu teplovomu izlucheniyu Vselennoi s temperaturoi okolo 2,7 K, sovpali s predskazaniyami teorii Bol'shogo Vzryva.
Avtory knigi Istoriya astronomii otmechayut: Otkrytie reliktovogo izlucheniya stalo velichaishim dostizheniem v astronomii XX veka i v znachitel'noi stepeni yavilos' rezul'tatom razvitiya radioastronomicheskoi tehniki i togo, chto sama nauchnaya atmosfera sozrela dlya ego vospriyatiya. Eto otkrytie sdelalo dostovernym faktom po men'shei mere to, chto Vselennaya (Metagalaktika) deistvitel'no evolyucioniruet. Nakonec, otkrytie reliktovogo izlucheniya stalo moshnym stimulom dlya dal'neishei razrabotki idei Bol'shogo Vzryva.
Novym etapom razvitiya predstavlenii o rannih stadiyah evolyucii Vselennoi stala teoriya goryachei Vselennoi, osobenno v rabotah akademika Ya.B. Zel'dovicha (19141987) i ego shkoly. Predstavlenie o haraktere nachal'nogo rasshireniya Vselennoi v nashi dni sil'no izmenilos'. Pomimo glavnoi trudnosti v opisanii takogo nachala (nedostupnosti ego dlya sovremennoi teoreticheskoi fiziki), obnaruzhilis' drugie ser'eznye trudnosti pri popytke opisat' i posleduyushuyu, uzhe v principe dostupnuyu sovremennoi fizike, no eshe ochen' rannyuyu istoriyu rasshireniya Vselennoi kak celogo.
S cel'yu preodoleniya etih trudnostei v 80-e gody byla predlozhena koncepciya razduvayusheisya (ili inflyacionnoi) Vselennoi (A. Gut, SShA; A D. Linde, SSSR). Obsuzhdaetsya ideya mnozhestvennosti i neodnokratnogo vozniknoveniya v raznye momenty vremeni samih razduvayushihsya vselennyh. Takim obrazom, drevneishaya ideya vozrozhdeniya Vselennoi, ideya beskonechnoi cepi rozhdenii i gibeli mirov vseh masshtabov, kak i koncepciya ostrovnyh vselennyh, rodivshayasya uzhe v rezul'tate soedineniya gravitacionnoi teorii i nablyudenii, v nashi dni vozrozhdayutsya, no uzhe na nesravnenno bolee vysokom urovne kak v otnoshenii masshtabov, tak i kachestvennogo mnogoobraziya ob'ektov. Eti idei mogut rassmatrivat'sya kak predvestnik, a mozhet byt' i nachalo uzhe tret'ei revolyucii v kosmologicheskoi kartine mira.\\\
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- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 15.02.2012 22:18, 2.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 18.02.2012 1:11, 1.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 18.02.2012 1:15, 183 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 18.02.2012 11:58, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 19.02.2012 14:10, 1.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 19.02.2012 18:08, 817 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.02.2012 3:41, 932 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.02.2012 22:40, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 1:52, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 10:27, 14.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 10:45, 972 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 11:03, 1.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 11:20, 182 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 11:59, 1.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 12:12, 1.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 12:19, 2.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 12:21, 1.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 12:24, 997 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2012 12:53, 1.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.02.2012 10:26, 598 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (Masha Kovaleva, 28.02.2012 11:05, 25 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.02.2012 19:55, 10.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.02.2012 11:18, 6.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.02.2012 11:33, 916 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.02.2012 13:10, 2.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.02.2012 20:17, 1.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 1.03.2012 13:12, 2.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 1.03.2012 17:42, 1.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 15.03.2012 4:12, 986 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 18.03.2012 14:13, 3.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 18.03.2012 20:06, 1.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 20.03.2012 14:56, 902 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.03.2012 16:55, 1.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A. I. Nezhivyh, 31.03.2012 20:08, 407 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.04.2012 18:16, 1014 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.04.2012 18:22, 256 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.04.2012 18:34, 764 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.04.2012 18:54, 456 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 5.04.2012 12:33, 1.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 5.04.2012 16:15, 2.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 6.04.2012 13:39, 1.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 17.04.2012 15:33, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 20.04.2012 13:19, 2.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.04.2012 9:04, 2.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.04.2012 18:01, 2.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.04.2012 18:16, 816 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.04.2012 21:31, 5.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.04.2012 13:25, 3.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.04.2012 13:55, 2.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.04.2012 11:22, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.04.2012 15:47, 2.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.04.2012 18:14, 13.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 30.04.2012 2:28, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 30.04.2012 12:41, 41.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 30.04.2012 13:44, 595 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 30.04.2012 13:57, 4.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.05.2012 21:00, 3.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 5.05.2012 2:11, 2.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 5.05.2012 13:58, 480 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 5.05.2012 15:35, 3.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 10.05.2012 14:13, 3.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 10.05.2012 14:27, 605 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 16.05.2012 2:09, 3.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 16.05.2012 2:20, 353 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.05.2012 2:10, 2.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.05.2012 23:19, 4.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.05.2012 23:35, 74 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.05.2012 0:48, 2.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.05.2012 8:39, 105 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.05.2012 9:03, 1.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.05.2012 0:37, 5.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 31.05.2012 9:03, 2.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 31.05.2012 22:57, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.06.2012 21:00, 2.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.07.2012 1:52, 3.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 23.07.2012 23:15, 2.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 23.07.2012 23:23, 644 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 23.07.2012 23:32, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 23.07.2012 23:36, 168 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.07.2012 1:28, 743 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.07.2012 1:53, 447 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.07.2012 9:09, 1.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.07.2012 21:30, 2.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.07.2012 8:16, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 26.07.2012 20:06, 159 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.07.2012 20:39, 733 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.07.2012 20:47, 424 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 26.07.2012 21:09, 28 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.07.2012 21:48, 408 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 27.07.2012 10:24, 564 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.07.2012 19:27, 28.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.07.2012 19:32, 6.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.07.2012 19:40, 5.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.07.2012 19:44, 2.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.07.2012 19:46, 34.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 27.07.2012 20:44, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 12:25, 769 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 17:42, 3.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 17:47, 2.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 17:52, 635 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 17:57, 2.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 17:57, 2.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 17:58, 1.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 28.07.2012 20:02, 256 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.07.2012 22:25, 6.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.07.2012 10:12, 1.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 29.07.2012 19:24, 890 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.07.2012 20:15, 1.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.07.2012 20:38, 4.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 29.07.2012 22:18, 218 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.07.2012 22:58, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Aksenova, 30.07.2012 11:16, 756 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 3.08.2012 21:27, 871 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.08.2012 9:40, 369 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 7.08.2012 0:13, 8.9 KBait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 10.08.2012 21:25, 4.2 KBait)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 10.08.2012 22:37, 2.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 10.08.2012 23:21, 1003 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 13.08.2012 17:18, 2.8 KBait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 13.08.2012 19:06, 541 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.08.2012 10:15, 1.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.08.2012 10:04, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.08.2012 17:55, 2.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 13.08.2012 20:45, 32.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 13.08.2012 21:24, 656 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 14.08.2012 5:57, 1.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 14.08.2012 6:05, 300 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 14.08.2012 15:02, 638 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 14.08.2012 15:48, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 15.08.2012 5:48, 823 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 15.08.2012 15:34, 1019 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 15.08.2012 21:28, 533 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 16.08.2012 15:44, 711 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 21.08.2012 22:35, 1.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.08.2012 20:28, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.08.2012 20:38, 636 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.08.2012 20:44, 707 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 24.08.2012 21:52, 989 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.08.2012 22:30, 1.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.08.2012 22:39, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.08.2012 23:07, 692 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 25.08.2012 11:12, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.08.2012 11:36, 653 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 25.08.2012 23:29, 2.5 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.08.2012 19:29, 1.9 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.08.2012 20:50, 8.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.08.2012 0:29, 953 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 26.08.2012 20:12, 3.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.08.2012 0:47, 507 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 29.08.2012 13:46, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (E. A. Tihomirov, 29.08.2012 14:01, 637 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.09.2012 21:05, 1.4 KBait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (S. V. Stoyanov, 10.03.2013 12:49, 147 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (O. A. Tret'yakova, 11.03.2013 15:56, 91 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.09.2012 22:57, 200 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (D. V. Tret'yakov, 19.09.2012 11:33, 177 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.09.2012 20:40, 365 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.09.2012 20:48, 575 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.09.2012 20:55, 504 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 29.09.2012 16:09, 1.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.10.2012 17:11, 1.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.10.2012 17:16, 344 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.10.2012 19:55, 1.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 28.10.2012 23:42, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 4.11.2012 12:56, 2.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 15.11.2012 23:45, 5.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 15.11.2012 23:48, 2.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 6.01.2013 12:08, 764 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 7.01.2013 19:10, 1.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A. S. Ivanov, 8.01.2013 2:05, 471 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 8.01.2013 9:55, 409 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 8.01.2013 9:37, 38.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 8.01.2013 9:42, 622 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 8.01.2013 22:00, 1.4 KBait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 9.01.2013 7:22, 568 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 8.01.2013 23:02, 275 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 8.01.2013 23:03, 65 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 9.01.2013 10:01, 298 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 9.01.2013 10:06, 265 Bait, otvetov: 5)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 9.01.2013 11:18, 575 Bait, otvetov: 4)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 9.01.2013 12:44, 557 Bait, otvetov: 3)
- Re[4]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 9.01.2013 21:34, 451 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[5]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 10.01.2013 10:19, 536 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[6]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 11.01.2013 6:23, 555 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.01.2013 8:57, 2.4 KBait, otvetov: 3)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 11.01.2013 12:48, 567 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 11.01.2013 14:18, 543 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[4]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 11.01.2013 14:36, 439 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.01.2013 21:30, 1.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.01.2013 23:01, 2.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.01.2013 23:11, 758 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 11.01.2013 23:21, 4.2 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.01.2013 9:32, 1.0 KBait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 12.01.2013 9:59, 534 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.01.2013 10:47, 1.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.01.2013 10:54, 441 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 12.01.2013 12:19, 580 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.01.2013 15:00, 466 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 12.01.2013 17:18, 508 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 12.01.2013 17:54, 455 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.01.2013 17:20, 499 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 12.01.2013 18:03, 532 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 18.01.2013 17:14, 463 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 19.01.2013 0:14, 557 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 19.01.2013 8:58, 349 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. B. Daneev, 19.01.2013 16:11, 577 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 20.01.2013 8:23, 575 Bait)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (V. P., 24.01.2013 21:10, 1.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (V. P., 24.01.2013 21:02, 349 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (Yu. S. Reshnikov, 26.01.2013 9:48, 564 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (S. A. Pikalev, 2.02.2013 15:20, 248 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 2.02.2013 20:58, 255 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (S. A. Pikalev, 2.02.2013 23:46, 165 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 3.02.2013 10:32, 361 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 3.02.2013 10:19, 419 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 3.02.2013 10:21, 122 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (S. A. Pikalev, 3.02.2013 14:08, 268 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 3.02.2013 14:43, 33.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (v. g. gruzinov, 5.02.2013 19:57, 225 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 5.02.2013 21:33, 235 Bait, otvetov: 2)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Burdin, 9.02.2013 13:57, 824 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[3]: Chernaya dyra (V. A. Burdin, 9.02.2013 14:02, 340 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 9.02.2013 16:08, 284 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 14.02.2013 22:58, 866 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 16.02.2013 1:33, 3.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 16.02.2013 18:41, 2.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 16.02.2013 18:46, 113 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 17.02.2013 12:17, 1.1 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 17.02.2013 12:18, 266 Bait, otvetov: 1)
- Re[2]: Chernaya dyra (v. g. gruzinov, 20.02.2013 15:49, 859 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 24.02.2013 13:16, 1.7 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.02.2013 23:07, 5.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 25.02.2013 23:13, 118 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2013 0:31, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2013 0:33, 242 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2013 0:34, 134 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 26.02.2013 1:02, 1.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 2.03.2013 20:11, 4.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 2.03.2013 20:34, 398 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 3.03.2013 14:41, 4.6 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 17.03.2013 14:00, 1.4 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 21.03.2013 12:45, 3.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 21.03.2013 22:08, 9.3 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 21.03.2013 22:13, 100 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 22.03.2013 3:36, 2.0 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 22.03.2013 3:38, 1.8 KBait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 22.03.2013 3:53, 777 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 22.03.2013 12:48, 422 Bait)
- Re: Chernaya dyra (A.P. Vasi, 22.03.2013 20:23, 3.3 KBait)
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- Re: Chernaya dyra (o. s. baranov, 28.03.2013 20:30, 341 Bait)
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