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Re: Polyus
6.07.2013 2:41 | A. A. Volkov
V predelah ob'yavlennoi temy foruma mozhno bylo by obsudit' samyi vazhnyi moment lyuboi modeli - Dinamiku dvizhenii sozdayushih to, chto my nazyvaem polyusom. Vopros etot trebuet pristal'nogo vnimaniya i ne zrya sozdany mezhdunarodnye sluzhby dlya nablyudeniya za izmeneniem ego koordinat v prostranstve.. A eshe ne malovazhnyi fakt, est' zarubezhnye kosmicheskie programmy izucheniya planet Sistemy, napravlennye na izuchenie imenno polyusov. Byli i prodolzhayutsya. Oni chto-to znayut, no ne afishiruyut. Uvy, v otechestvennoi kosmicheskoi programme etot punkt ne prisutstvuet. Po Vashei ssylke nashel dostatochno materiala dlya oznakomleniya s model'yu. Poluchilos' okolo 200 stranic!!! Nad nimi nado potrudit'sya. Moi trudy znachitel'no skromnee. Vot ssylka na model', o nei soobshayu v stat'e po adresu http://www.rf-conf.ru/arhiv.php Materialy 9 konferencii 1-i tom na str. 26 Tam neskol'ko listochkov :-) Byl by rad uznat' Vashe mnenie, no predlagayu dlya obsuzhdeniya vybrat' temu foruma gde uchastnikam bylo by interesno obsuzhdat' imenno modeli. A v predelah temy "Polyus" predlagayu nachat' s samogo nachala :-) 1. Zemlya vrashaetsya? 2. Pochemu vrashaetsya Zemlya i imenno s takoi skorost'yu? 3. Pochemu drugie planety Solnechnoi sistemy vrashayutsya s drugimi skorostyami i naklonami osei. 4. Kak eto svyazano s efirom? Moe predpolozhenie: Dlya togo, chto by kosmicheskoe telo prishlo v dvizhenie, neobhodimo prilozhit' usilie. Dlya izmeneniya pryamolineinogo dvizheniya odnogo tela na ellipticheskoe, dostatochno sushestvovaniya sily gravitacii (sila obladayushaya odnoi stepen'yu svobody) drugogo (vzaimnogo prityazheniya) tela .. Dlya privedeniya tela vo vrashenie, neobhodimo vliyanie (sila imeyushaya dve stepeni svobody), obladayushee sootvetstvuyushimi geometricheskimi parametrami - "spinom", "rotorom","momentom",... Predpolozhenie o raskrutke putem udarov drugimi telami ne mozhet ob'yasnit' fenomena osevogo vrasheniya planet Sistemy v odnu storonu. V sluchayah soudarenii, napravleniya vrashenii byli by besporyadochnymi (sluchaino-veroyatnostnymi)! Kazhdaya iz planet podverzhena svoemu vrashayushemu vliyaniyu, imeyushemu svoe evolyucionnoe sostoyanie. Etot process opredelyaet moshnost' i geometriyu potokov v dannom meste v dannoe vremya. Na dannyi istoricheskii moment, preobladayushee napravlenie dvizhenii v Sisteme Protiv Chasovoi Strelki i po napravleniyu k centru. Ne fakt, chto takoi poryadok budet vo vseh Sistemah Galaktiki :-) Tak chto, poisk zarubezhnyh kosmicheskih apparatov napravlen imenno na izuchenie struktury vliyayushih sil kazhdoi planety. Zachem? Eto tema vyhodit za ramki saita.. Radostei vsem, Rossiyane!
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Diametral'no protivopolozhnye tochki sfery; obychno... - Re: Polyus
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22.06.2013 12:42, 335 Bait)
Da eto lyuboi durak znaet.... - Re: Polyus
(A. A. Volkov,
28.06.2013 12:02, 93 Bait, otvetov: 2)
Ochen' interesno, no ne sovsem ponyatno..... - Re[2]: Polyus
(A. V. Malkin,
28.06.2013 21:49, 304 Bait, otvetov: 1)
V smysle? - Re[3]: Polyus
(A. V. Malkin,
29.06.2013 12:51, 638 Bait)
A-a-a-a... Nu, esli odin, nash, naprimer, to- smotrite vyshe - Re: Polyus
(A. A. Volkov,
29.06.2013 13:38, 337 Bait)
Nu kakoi tut "smysl"? Kogda... - Re: Polyus
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30.06.2013 13:43, 2.5 KBait)
Kak govoritsya - ne dlya obsuzhdeniya.Vot kak by ya pisal.... - Re: Polyus
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Dobrogo vsem vremeni! Spasibo Vam za Vashe uchastie!... - Re: Polyus
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Uvazhaemyi A.P. Vasi, kogda... - Re: Polyus
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3.07.2013 20:09, 2.4 KBait)
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3.07.2013 20:20, 2.4 KBait)
Est' eshe effekt Dzhanibekova.... - Re: Polyus
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V moei modeli u atomov... - Re: Polyus
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V moei modeli u atomov... - Re: Polyus
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Spasibo. Nado nekotoroe vremya po izuchat'.. :-) U nas shozhie predstavleniya.... - Re: Polyus
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Ne stesnyaites' vykladyvaite svoyu model'... - >> Re: Polyus
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V predelah ob'yavlennoi temy foruma... - Re: Polyus
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Vy prochtite - tam u menya etot vopros reshen.... - Re: Polyus
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:-))) Poka ne poluchaetsya kak u Vas. - Re: Polyus
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U Vas obshaya podborka po Sile Koriolisa.... - Re: Polyus
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Strategicheskoe myshlenie mozhete porobovat' prokachat'... - Re: Polyus
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\\\eto absolyutno raznye fizicheskie sushnosti\\\ Uvazhaemyi A.P.... - Re: Polyus
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Zhal', mne budet skuchno bez sil'nogo opponenta.... - Re: Polyus
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\\\Vy mnogo sdelali, no glavnoe ne uchteno.... - Re: Polyus
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Esli Vy mozhete sostavit'... - Re: Polyus
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Uvazhaemyi A.P.... - Re: Polyus
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