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Re: Chernaya dyra
22.11.2013 19:44 | A.P. Vasi
Sobstvenno bor'ba razvivaetsya ochen' moshnaya
i nezametnaya, ya to vizhu gde bor'ba razuma idet.
Chto mogu skazat' kak storonnii nablyudatel' -
chto zhenskaya
logika ne terpit kompromissov v
otlichii ot muzhskoi, i esli baryshnya prishla k
nekotorym vyvodam - to eto uzhe kamen'.
Sobstvenno sama ona priiti k vyvodam
v dannom
sluchai ne smogla po prichine predubezhdennosti
kotoraya opredelyalas' obrazovaniem v ramkah paradigmy,
i posle adekvatnogo analiza razlichnoi fizicheskoi
fantastiki ot razlichnyh avtorov s Fizikom,
prosto srazu vidno kak ona obgonyaet vseh relyativistov
vmeste vzyatyh v ponimanii fiziki.
Dlya menya eto
byla ochen' bol'shaya neozhidannost',
ya to dumal chto bolee uverennogo relyativista,
chem eta baryshnya i byt' ne mozhet.
Kakie teksty - i tam gde tochki v konce
esli postavit' znak
voprosa, kotoryi neyavno tam est', to eto
mozhno skazat' chto u relyativistov ne to chto
vse ploho, a v relyativizm uzhe ne veryat dazhe
ego
zavzyatye storonniki.
I eto ne trudnosti teorii - eto prigovor teorii.
Kstati rasskazhu chto znachit slovo - singulyarnost', -
eto kogda chem-to chto-to
ogranichivaet beskonechnost',
ibo v bol'shoi sovetskoi enciklopedii - prostranstvo
bylo beskonechno, a potom k nemu prilepili slovo singulyarnost',
i vselennaya
stala ogranichennoi v razmerah, -
obosnovanie singulyarnosti - teoriya bol'shogo vzryva, -
zhest' odnako,
no fakt est' fakt.
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Otvet #2308 : Segodnya v 17:14:27
ya ne rassmatrivayu OTO (i ee "proizvodnye teorii") kak fizicheskuyu
teoriyu, primenimuyu ko vsei Vselennoi. Da eshe singulyarnosti... V
dostatochno ogranichennoi oblasti ee eshe mozhno rassmatrivat', no ko vsei
Vselennoi - uvol'te.
Mne takaya Kosmologicheskaya teoriya ne podhodit. Polagayu, chto Vselennoi - tozhe.
Ya ishu druguyu
- bez singulyarnostei ...
Trudnosti (problemy) OTO - klassicheskoi teorii gravitacii
Singulyarnosti. Nepolnye geodezicheskie. Somnitel'nost'
primenimosti OTO dlya ekstremal'nyh gravitacionnyh polei
Opredelenie energii gravitacionnogo polya
Sistemy otscheta. Ih realizaciya fizicheskimi priborami.
Princip ekvivalentnosti. Priroda inertnoi massy nedostatochno yasna. Garantirovannyi perehod ot OTO k STO v nekotoroi SO.
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