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Re: Chernaya dyra
29.06.2014 14:07 | A.P. Vasi
Fizicheskie kotlety i matematicheskie muhi.
Vchera :: 18:10:57
http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1403964657
\\\Po etoi prichine, chtoby ne ostat'sya golodnymi i ne pitat'sya matematicheskimi
modelyami kotlet nuzhno umet' otdelyat' matematicheskih muh ot fizicheskih kotlet.
K sozhaleniyu, na segodnyashnii den', vse eto nastol'ko pereputano, chto vmesto
real'nyh fizicheskih kotlet nam prihoditsya pitat'sya pashtetom iz matematicheskih
modelei.
Tipichnym primerom takogo podloga yavlyaetsya teoriya otnositel'nosti, kogda vmesto
real'noi fizicheskoi modeli nam podsunuli matematicheskii surrogat i zastavlyayut
ego est'. A on nam prosto ne lezet.
S nekotoryh por, matematiki okonchatel'no razbushevavshis', kak eto umel delat'
Fantomas, matematika nachala izobretat' svoi fizicheskie zakony, i eto kasaetsya ne
tol'ko TO. Nam nachali podsovyvat' surrogat iz zavisyashei ot chastoty dielektricheskoi
pronicaemosti plazmy i chastotozavisimoi dielektricheskoi pronicaemosti
dielektrikov, predlagaya na etoi pochve postroit' vechnye dvigateli. Nachali nas
kormit' volnovymi funkciyami i kvantami elektromagnitnogo polya.
Vobshem, vsya sovremennaya fizika eto sploshnoi neudobovarimyi metafizicheskii
surrogat iz prakticheski nes'edobnyh matematicheskih modelei.
No gde zhe podevalis' nastoyashie kotlety iz natural'nogo fizicheskogo myasa.
A ih ukrali u nas Einshteiny, Landau i Gizburgi i izhe s nimi, i vmeste s nimi ukrali
u nas i vsyu fiziku.\\\
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S moei tochki zreniya fiziku ukrast' u fizika nevozmozhno, lichno mne v
etom kontekste slozhivsheisya situacii v fizike sto let nazad i prodolzhayushuyusya
do sih por - ochen' obidno za moi shkol'nye gody, i za tu fiziku kotoruyu mne
prepodavali po shkol'nym uchebnikam, za to chto na samom dele
est' knizhki po fizike i po luchshe raz v 30, a esli ih by al'ty perepisali
to oni by byli voobshe horoshie - ya dazhe uveren chto takogo ne proizoidet.
Sobstvenno bez adekvatnoi bazovoi fiziki v shkol'nye gody, yuzer
ne poluchaet adekvatnyh znanii o prakticheskih dostizheniyah i ne znaet
uzhe provedennyh opytah, i budet vynuzhden vsyu etu botvu izuchat'
s nulya i vnikat' v nee po kartinkam i opisaniyam cherez internet.
Chto sobstvenno i est' bazovyi tormoz.
I voobshe esli na segodnyashnii den' net fizicheskogo opredeleniya
soprotivleniya provodnika - to eto yasnyi kon' - pozor, no
eto nado osoznat' sperva, potom postavit' takuyu zadachu,
potom pro-finansirovat' konkurs na luchshie modeli.
Potom vybrat' - a vot zdes' ya zadam vopros na kotoryi kazhdyi
mozhet sam sebe otvetit' samostoyatel'no -
Vyberut tu model' -
- Avtor kotoroi poobeshaet bol'she iz premii komissii
- kotoraya luchshe opisyvaet fizicheskii smysl v mehanicheskom variante,
- kotoraya soderzhit bol'she formul,
- kotoraya men'she vsego protivorechit tekushei paradigme
- avtor kotoroi imeet zvanie akademika
- avtor kotoroi chlen komissii po bor'be s lzhenaukoi
?
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