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Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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25.05.2014 19:10 |
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Pesochnye chasy - vid sboku, postarayus' vystavit' v nekotoroi posledovatel'nosti.
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vybros, sinii cvet vybrosa ukazyvaet na ochen' vysokoe davlenie efira v prstranstve. Po nachalu vybros ne sinii, po prichine togo chto sam vybros nachinaetsya
po prichine snizheniya davleniya efira v prostranstve vokrug zvezdy, i chast' efira iz mini zvezd efira nachinaet massovo isparyat'sya, tem samym povyshaya vneshnee
davlenie, i snizhaet vnutrennee, chto vozmozhno sbalansiruet zvezdu, i ona obratno pereidet v ustoichivuyu kondensaciyu efira, esli etogo ne proishodit, to voznikaet
sleduyushii vybros, chto vneshne vyglyadit kak vtoraya yubka u pesochnyh chasov, i byvaet chto nachinaet vyhodit' central'naya zvezda efira, i eto uzhe - vtoroi variant
- polyusovoi vybros.
1) Standartnyi vybros. Vse situacii kogda vybros imeet mesto byt' v tekushii moment (s moei tochki zreniya).
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Vybros pri kotorom predpolozhitel'no proishodit vyhod central'noi zvezdy efira, kotoraya pri pervom vybrose
- ohladila sebya i pereshla v tverdoe sostoyanie vsego efira, neravnomernost' vybrosa ukazyvaet na to kuda dvizhetsya zvezda efira vyhodya iz zvezdy.
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G. J. Gabriella95
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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20.06.2014 19:21 |
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Spasibo vam, za vse horoshee, veselogo vremeni my tratim na vashem saite .... Ya somnevayus', rabotu, kotoruyu vy dolzhny dat' vam za eto, my s udovol'stviem.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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19.07.2014 23:23 |
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Planetarnaya tumannost' NGC 2818 ot Habbla --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rassmatrival etu fotografiyu vnimatel'no
i prishel k vyvodu chto sobstvenno ploho vo vsei etoi situacii - fotografiya dvuhmernaya a process trehmernyi. Hotya-by fotografiya byla by trehmernaya bylo by uzhe
proshe, i k etoi fotografii logichno infrakrasnuyu konturnost' temperatur prilozhit'. Logichno sdelat' programmu kotoraya smogla by eto delat'. Sobstvenno
na foto ya mogu naprimer sravnit' svoe viden'e s tem chto potom programmy pokazhut. Esli vzyat' karandash pered soboi i posmotret' na karandash sverhu ego nado
povernut' na desyat' chasov, a v pryamoi ploskosti - vosem' chasov, sobstvenno poluchayutsya pesochnye chasy levaya chast' kotoryh napravlenna vlevo vniz ot nablyudatelya. Sobstvenno vybros analogichen vot etomu
 Skazat' kakoi iz nih ran'she a kakoi pozzhe - dostatochno legko NGC 2818 - eto to chto proizoidet
so vremenem. Chto sobstvenno zdes' nablyudaetsya obshego - posle moshnyh polyusovyh vybrosov dostatochno simmetrichnyh nablyudaetsya ekvatorial'nyi gryazevoi vybros.
Tozhe iz etoi opery.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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20.07.2014 0:30 |
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http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/heritage/pr2014014a/
Prosmatrival fotografiyu na saite teleskopa Habla v samom vysokom razreshenii, - ne znayu pochemu no mne kazhetsya chto kogda ya na ekrane
pravoi knopkoi myshki klacayu to dolzhny byt' funkcii - ubrat' zvezdy ne vhodyashie v galaktiku, ubrat' melkie krasnye zvezdy, ubrat' sinie zvezdy, ubrat' belye
zvezdy, prorisovat' kontury temperatur. Kamennyi vek kakoi-to tehnicheskie vozmozhnosti vse eto pozvolyaet sdelat' i programmy special'nye est'. A vot soedinit'
s galereei teleskopa i uprostit' programmy .
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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20.07.2014 15:04 |
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Razmyshlyal nad tehnicheskim voprosom o tom kak na izobrazhenii nablyudat' dvizhenie. Ishodya iz togo chto est' - interferenciya - ya dumayu chto vse kosmologi znayut chto termin
vvel Tomas Yung. I on i opisal interferenciyu. Est' svetovoi transformator - teleskop.Sobstvenno chtoby nablyudat' interferenciyu dolzhno byt' dva teleskopa, raspolozhennye
na odinakovom rasstoyanii k istochniku, i ih izobrazheniya nakladyvayutsya drug na druga. Vtoroi variant - liniya zaderzhki s posleduyushim summirovaniem. Ya by vtoroi
variant reshal by prosto steklyannym sterzhnem i zerkalami. I poluchennoe izobrazhenie soderzhalo by podvizhnye interferencionnye dvizhushie volny kotorye by ukazyvali
na napravlenie materii v tochkah prostranstva. Estestvenno tam budet ochen' mnogo haotichno blikuyushih uchastkov, a vot uzhe kak raz zadacha programmnogo obespecheniya sdelat'
ob'emnoe dinamichnoe foto.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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30.07.2014 2:57 |
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Dostatochno strannye pri sravnenii mezhdu soboi fotografii, na verhnei u vseh zvezd sinie oreoly - chto sobstvenno i horosho i stranno - tam po idee
nachinayutsya i proishodyat massovye vybrosy efira ih zvezd. Ploho s moei tochki zreniya to - chto vse zvezdy na verhnem foto povernuty k nam polyusami, i nahodyatsya v nizkom davlenii efira chto privodit k potere balansa - chto v svoyu ochered' privodit k vybrosu efira iz zvezdy, vybros efira iz zvezdy - pridaet zvezde sinii cvet,
po skol'ko drugie cveta otklonyayutsya i rasseivayutsya.
Vtoroe foto sobstvenno tem i otlichaetsya, - zvezdy v dvuh yavno vidimyh davleniyah efira - kak vsegda
ne ponyatno chto v levom verhnem uglu - eto estestvenno tol'ko mne vazhno, - kamennyi vek, samoe glavnoe chto est' na foto i ne pokazano i po-barabanu. Tak
vot, sleva idet gidravlicheskii udar davleniem efira, kotoryi sduvaet vneshnyuyu obolochku so zvezdy, pri etom mozhet obrazovat'sya vybros efira v odnom napravlenii,
i mozhet poyavit'sya, s ochen' bol'shoi veroyatnost'yu - neitronnaya reaktivnaya zvezda efira, i u nee budet napravlennyi vybros efira, ya tak ponimayu chto odna yarkaya
sinyaya zvezda uzhe startuet, i vtoraya na grani starta. Po krainei mere yarkost' etih zvezd budet uvelichivat'sya, po toi prichine chto ya ne pomnyu nigde na foto chto-by
na granice perepada davlenii byli sinie zvezdy, sinie zvezdy kak pravilo tol'ko v central'noi chasti vysokogo davleniya.
Sobstvenno raznica - u
verhnego foto - lokal'nye nebol'shie vybrosy efira iz zvezd, a na nizhnem foto u sinih zvezd proizoidet vozmozhno bol'shoi process v rezul'tate kotorogo startuet
zvezda a potom skorei vsego budet vot takoe. --------------------------------------------------------------------


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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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1.08.2014 21:19 |
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http://images.astronet.ru/pubd/2014/08/01/0001318397/neb_0814.pdf
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linza - pesochnye chasy analogichny

prosto vid na foto ekvatorial'nyi, a tam vid - polyusovoi.
Tak dali ssylku chto nevozmozhno naiti etu baidu, vozmozhno dlya takih kolhoznikov kak
ya, mnogie foto zakryty, ibo zamechayu davno chto na Habble v http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/ novye foto tol'ko na pervyh stranicah a dal'she ne
fokusirovannoe barahlo. No lichno mne do lampochki mne i etih stranic dlya ponimaniya dostatochno.
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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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1.08.2014 21:35 |
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Click to Enlarge
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A vot eta strannaya forma - dostatochno neobychnaya ee luchshe v video
postoyanno snimat', tochnee skazat' eto by ya tak delal. Nu krasota prosto - byl nebol'shoi vybros, seichas idet obratnyi process, krasnyi oreol ukazyvaet na nizkuyu
plotnost' efira, po etoi prichine dinamika processa budet, i ona budet vidna po forme ogibayushei ekvatora, i vrode-by po foto vidno chto startuet ekvatorial'nyi
konusnyi vybros na tri chasa.
I budet pohozhe na


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A.P. Vasi
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Re: Svet i prostranstvo i o skorosti sveta.
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2.08.2014 11:59 |
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Ekvatorial'nye lepestkovye i treh lepestkovye vybrosy - u pesochnyh chasov.
Na bolee rannih fotografiyah luchshe vidno nalichie lepestkov, i esli efir prodolzhaet
dut' iz zvezdy v prostranstvo, to v pervuyu ochered' sduvaet imenno ekvatorial'nye lepestkovye vybrosy. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Release date:29 April 2004 NGC 6302 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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---------------------------------------------------------- Bolee vnimatel'no mogu skazat' chto eto treh lepestkovyi vybros. Ekvator 10:30 - 4:30, tretii lepestok napravlen na nablyudatelya na dva chasa nemnogo vverh.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Vidno yavno tri lepestka u ekvatora, verhnii bol'she.
Click to Enlarge ------------------------------------------------------------------ Otchetlivo vidno tri lepestka.
 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Vidno dva lepestka, simmetriya lepestkov kak pri treh lepestkah.

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