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Re: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
8.03.2016 13:03 | Nikolai Demin
Nepriyatno videt' takie diskussii... Ne v tom smysle, chto my boimsya kritiki ili ne priemlem ee, a v tom, chto vse eti perehody na lichnosti ni k chemu horoshemu ne privedut.
Po povodu kritiki zhurnala "Nauka i Zhizn'" - da, takaya kritika so storony Aleksandra Nikolaevicha deistvitel'no imela mesto, kak, sobstvenno govorya, i s moei storony. I prichin dlya etogo dostatochno. Kommercheskaya samookupaemost' tut ne pokazatel' - mnogochislennye astrologicheskie izdaniya imeyut kuda bol'shuyu okupaemost', chem, k primeru, "Sky & Telescope". Budem ravnyat'sya na nih? Izdaniyu "Nauka i Zhizn'" est' kuda rasti - vzyat' hotya by ih zhe rubriku "Lyubitelyam astronomii" obrazca 1970-h...1980-h godov. Vot esli oni budut prepodnosit' material na takom urovne - nikakoi znachitel'noi kritiki v ih adres ne budet. A tak - uvy i ah... Tak chto tut ya na storone Aleksandra.
Po povodu "Neba nedeli" - oshibki inogda deistvitel'no imeyut mesto. A inogda imeet mesto nepravil'noe ponimanie chitatelem suti izlozhennogo materiala. Kak, naprimer, v rassmatrivaemom vyshe sluchae s Neptunom. Po-moemu, tam vpolne yasno napisano, chto "u Merkuriya pri elongacii v 11 gradusov vidimost' v yuzhnyh raionah", a "Neptun, raspolozhennyi ryadom, nedostupen dlya nablyudeniya". Chto ochevidno, esli prinyat' vo vnimanie ego blesk - uvidet' ob'ekt 8m vblizi Solnca kraine trudno.
Naschet peremennyh zvezd ya ne znayu, no mogu predpolozhit', chto dannye vzyaty iz neskol'kih istochnikov i Aleksandr ukazal tol'ko samyi rasprostranennyi iz nih - AAVSO. Vprochem, kak mne kazhetsya, on proyasnit etot moment, esli u nego sprosit' ob etom normal'no, a ne s obvineniyami v "manii velichiya" i t.p.
Voobshe zhe Aleksandr Kozlovskii - na redkost' poryadochnyi i otzyvchivyi lyubitel' astronomii i menya ochen' udivlyaet, kak nekotorye LA umudrilis' s nim rassorit'sya.
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- Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
21.02.2016 12:10, 21.2 KBait, otvetov: 39)
Na dannoi nedele proizoidet samoe... - Re: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Serge Zr,
5.03.2016 14:44, 547 Bait, otvetov: 29)
А... - Re[2]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Serge Zr,
5.03.2016 14:48, 285 Bait, otvetov: 28)
А... - Re[3]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
6.03.2016 22:53, 26 Bait, otvetov: 27)
V chem, sobstvenno, vopros? - Re[4]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
6.03.2016 22:55, 72 Bait, otvetov: 26)
Kakie problemy?Eto forum Astroneta, a ne Astroforuma.... - Re[5]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
6.03.2016 22:59, 21 Bait, otvetov: 25)
I ne Dva Strel'ca.... - Re[6]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
6.03.2016 23:16, 111 Bait, otvetov: 24)
Po Astroforumu, otvety pishite na Astroforume....Po AAVSO poreshaem....... - Re[7]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 13:52, 540 Bait)
G-n Kozlovskii, a vopros sobstvenno i net.... - Re[7]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 18:45, 412 Bait, otvetov: 22)
Na forum zashel nekto... - Re[8]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 18:56, 1.1 KBait, otvetov: 21)
Na schet KuznecovaVy pisali... - Re[9]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 19:10, 877 Bait, otvetov: 19)
Pro Dva Stel'ca Tam skol'ko... - Re[10]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 19:14, 194 Bait, otvetov: 16)
LadnoHotite pozorit' sami sebya - pozor'teBol'she nyanchit'sya s vami bessmyslenno........ - Re[11]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 19:56, 338 Bait, otvetov: 15)
Nu prodolzhaite pozorit'sya etoi bessmyslennoi nikomu ne nuzhnoi boltovnei...... - Re[12]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:00, 302 Bait, otvetov: 14)
Nu prodolzhaite pozorit'sya etoi bessmyslennoi nikomu ne nuzhnoi boltovnei...... - Re[13]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:04, 338 Bait, otvetov: 13)
Nu prodolzhaite pozorit'sya etoi bessmyslennoi nikomu ne nuzhnoi boltovnei...... - Re[14]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:05, 17 Bait, otvetov: 12)
Vremya pokazhet.... - Re[15]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 20:09, 283 Bait, otvetov: 1)
Chto vremya dolzhno pokazat'?... - Re[16]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 20:11, 312 Bait)
"Karandashom na bumage?Vsyakoe... - Re[15]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:13, 120 Bait, otvetov: 9)
Eto chto li po vashemu lyubitel'skaya astronomiya!... - Re[16]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:14, 93 Bait, otvetov: 7)
Vremya pokazhet - Re[17]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:17, 140 Bait, otvetov: 1)
Vremya pokazhet u kogo vran'e, poddelka, i prochee - Re[18]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 20:20, 306 Bait)
"Vremya pokazhet... - Re[17]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:19, 93 Bait, otvetov: 4)
Vremya pokazhet - Re[18]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 20:19, 25 Bait, otvetov: 3)
Vsego vam samogo dobrogo! - Re[19]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
7.03.2016 21:21, 387 Bait, otvetov: 2)
Budushee A tak, chto zh....... - Re[20]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
8.03.2016 8:47, 163 Bait)
Ne uvodite temu, g-n Kozlovskii.... - Re[20]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
8.03.2016 11:14, 475 Bait)
Skol'ko lestnyh epitetov v moi adres!KrasivoSpasibo!I eshe raz....... - Re[16]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 20:17, 1.0 KBait)
Ne uvodite temu pro svoi oshibki, na lyubitel'skuyu astronomiyu.... - Re[10]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 19:57, 1.3 KBait, otvetov: 1)
"I opisanie sozvezdii... - Re[11]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 20:00, 350 Bait)
"lyubiteli astronomii... - Re[9]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
7.03.2016 19:48, 1.1 KBait)
G-n Kozlovskii ne krutites', ispol'zuya poka melkuyu lozh'.... - Re: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
5.03.2016 20:22, 2.2 KBait)
I... - >> Re: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Nikolai Demin,
8.03.2016 13:03, 1.9 KBait, otvetov: 6)
Nepriyatno videt' takie diskussii...... - Re[2]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
8.03.2016 14:16, 748 Bait, otvetov: 2)
Kak mne nravyatsya "zashitniki" Kozlovskogo.... - Re[3]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
8.03.2016 14:21, 746 Bait, otvetov: 1)
Dalee: "Naschet peremennyh zvezd... - Re[4]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Yurii Solomonov,
8.03.2016 14:39, 1.9 KBait)
Nu i v zaklyuchenii:"... - Re[2]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
8.03.2016 16:18, 445 Bait, otvetov: 2)
Yurii Solomonov Re[3]: Astronomicheskaya... - Re[3]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
8.03.2016 16:22, 638 Bait, otvetov: 1)
Yurii! Mne iskrenne... - Re[4]: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
8.03.2016 16:28, 589 Bait)
A voobshe, druz'ya, zrya vy tak perezhivaeteI Nikolai, i Yurii!... - Re: Astronomicheskaya nedelya s 7 po 13 marta 2016 goda
(Aleksandr Kozlovskii,
8.03.2016 17:18, 1.6 KBait)
I vot eshe chto, Yurii!...